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    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyUncle View Post
    SE designed these systems, specifically glamour which didnt need to use inventory, to consume inventory spaces and with each update and expansion the available maximum inventory remains the same while the number of usable items increases in addition to glamour armor which according Live Letters the developers and Yoshi P are totally into and behind. So much that they design items SPECIFICALLY for glamour then yes, they need to take this issue seriously.
    This. Seriously, it's just the same as Miqo'te and now Au Ra with their tails, like, "well we have these races available for you but we don't really care about accomodating their body features, so have your tails clipping through 95% of all the clothes/armour!"... (yeah, different scale, different problem, but the core is the same)



    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Sure, take them into account, and ignore them when appropriate.

    Too many games have been ruined by short-sighted "paying customers" who just want what they want and don't understand or respect the reasons why their wishes are a bad idea. Want a win button, anyone? Or direct purchase of gil from SE with $$$? Yeah, some paying customers wish for those things.

    Stick to your vision, Yoshida-san, your track record speaks louder than all the choruses of "gimmee gimmee gimmee" on the internet. I have faith in you because I beleive you love this game at least as much as any of us do; it's your masterpiece, after all. I look forward to wherever you choose to take us.
    ...hoooooooly Menphina, do you actually hear what you're saying?? (Well, see what you type?) White knight in the shiniest of armours, if I've ever seen one.

    And how many - not even games, but entire franchises have been ruined by short-sighted "money money money" corporate suits who just wanted to see their profits climb? Want a win button or direct purchase of gil from SE with $$$? Yeah, the road we are on now leads to those things. Because some people, people like you, will defend everything SE does and don't mind being double-dipped and spending money on things they should not be spending money on.

    For the record, I do love Yoshi and I have such huge respect for him. He did do amazing things to this game, even after and beyond "simply" turning it around from the mess of 1.0. I also love him as a person, I love how he's this #1 man of such a huge game, yet is completely chill and dresses like some half-blood j-rocker. But certain company decisions he went ahead with (or had to go ahead with) just made me not want to believe what he says anymore, and be apprehensive about everything he announces. The way housing was handled - see my signature, and see how it turned out - first break of trust. Then the Eternal Bonding thing, most of the coolest stuff gated behind a paywall - second break of trust. And now this - being told time and time again how problematic increasing inventories is, and then this sort of reveal of how they really have no issues with it actually - third break of trust. For someone who's admittedly so aware of the trust lost with 1.x and wanting to re-build it so badly, these are some very ... interesting steps he's taken. And I'm not at all convinced they fit into that vision. Sure I still want to believe, and I do still stick around, because I do believe, but I'm just more and more scared of this path we've been walking with this game for a while. It was mentioned somewhere, I think, that they're "testing the waters" of how far they can go with extra charges (ie. cash shop and its equivalents) - if we never voice our dislike, if we just passively accept everything they charge us extra for, they'll never stop "testing the waters", they'll just continue to throw us in deeper and deeper (cess)pools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    This. Seriously, it's just the same as Miqo'te and now Au Ra with their tails, like, "well we have these races available for you but we don't really care about accomodating their body features, so have your tails clipping through 95% of all the clothes/armour!"... (yeah, different scale, different problem, but the core is the same)




    ...hoooooooly Menphina, do you actually hear what you're saying?? (Well, see what you type?) White knight in the shiniest of armours, if I've ever seen one.

    And how many - not even games, but entire franchises have been ruined by short-sighted "money money money" corporate suits who just wanted to see their profits climb? Want a win button or direct purchase of gil from SE with $$$? Yeah, the road we are on now, leads to those things. Because some people, people like you, will defend everything SE does and don't mind being double-dipped and spending money on things they should not be spending money on.

    For the record, I do love Yoshi and I have such huge respect for him. He did do amazing things to this game, even after and beyond "simply" turning it around from the mess of 1.0. I also love him as a person, I love how he's this #1 man of such a huge game, yet is completely chill and dresses like some half-blood j-rocker. But certain company decisions he went ahead with (or had to go ahead with) just made me not want to believe what he says anymore, and be apprehensive about everything he announces. The way housing was handled - see my signature, and see how it turned out - first break of trust. Then the Eternal Bonding thing, most of the coolest stuff behind gated behind a paywall - second break of trust. And now this - being told time and time again how problematic increasing inventories is, and then this sort of reveal of how they really have no issues with it actually - third break of trust. For someone who's admittedly so aware of the trust lost with 1.x and wanting to re-build it so badly, these are some very ... interesting steps he's taken. And I'm not at all convinced they fit into that vision. Sure I still want to believe, and I do still stick around, because I do believe, but I'm just more and more scared of this path we've been walking with this game for a while. It was mentioned somewhere, I think, that they're "testing the waters" of how far they can go with extra charges (ie. cash shop and its equivalents) - if we never voice our dislike, if we just passively accept everything they charge us extra for, they'll never stop "testing the waters", they'll just continue to throw us in deeper and deeper (cess)pools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    The way housing was handled - see my signature, and see how it turned out - first break of trust.
    you misinterpreted that, yoshi p even went over it. your fault not his.

    course the good guy yoshi p is took blame being the better person about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    you misinterpreted that, yoshi p even went over it. your fault not his.

    course the good guy yoshi p is took blame being the better person about it.
    Things are always easy enough to explain away in hindsight... if one knows the reasons and the general picture before something happens or is done, but only takes to expressing them properly afterwards, well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreathlessTao View Post
    This. Seriously, it's just the same as Miqo'te and now Au Ra with their tails, like, "well we have these races available for you but we don't really care about accomodating their body features, so have your tails clipping through 95% of all the clothes/armour!"... (yeah, different scale, different problem, but the core is the same)




    ...hoooooooly Menphina, do you actually hear what you're saying?? (Well, see what you type?) White knight in the shiniest of armours, if I've ever seen one.

    And how many - not even games, but entire franchises have been ruined by short-sighted "money money money" corporate suits who just wanted to see their profits climb? Want a win button or direct purchase of gil from SE with $$$? Yeah, the road we are on now leads to those things. Because some people, people like you, will defend everything SE does and don't mind being double-dipped and spending money on things they should not be spending money on.

    For the record, I do love Yoshi and I have such huge respect for him. He did do amazing things to this game, even after and beyond "simply" turning it around from the mess of 1.0. I also love him as a person, I love how he's this #1 man of such a huge game, yet is completely chill and dresses like some half-blood j-rocker. But certain company decisions he went ahead with (or had to go ahead with) just made me not want to believe what he says anymore, and be apprehensive about everything he announces. The way housing was handled - see my signature, and see how it turned out - first break of trust. Then the Eternal Bonding thing, most of the coolest stuff gated behind a paywall - second break of trust. And now this - being told time and time again how problematic increasing inventories is, and then this sort of reveal of how they really have no issues with it actually - third break of trust. For someone who's admittedly so aware of the trust lost with 1.x and wanting to re-build it so badly, these are some very ... interesting steps he's taken. And I'm not at all convinced they fit into that vision. Sure I still want to believe, and I do still stick around, because I do believe, but I'm just more and more scared of this path we've been walking with this game for a while. It was mentioned somewhere, I think, that they're "testing the waters" of how far they can go with extra charges (ie. cash shop and its equivalents) - if we never voice our dislike, if we just passively accept everything they charge us extra for, they'll never stop "testing the waters", they'll just continue to throw us in deeper and deeper (cess)pools.
    Ohhh lord PREACH IT!. . Somebody give this man a cookie!.
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