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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I would not presume to speak for other people.

    But please recall that this is a game, a luxury item, and as with any luxury item, there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with the seller asking people to pay as much as the market will bear for it.
    That's a JOKE "luxury item"! They know people are addicted to this game and they know they are going to pay the extra $12 a month. All they are doing is praying on peoples addiction. But they are not getting a dime out of me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    That's a JOKE "luxury item"! They know people are addicted to this game and they know they are going to pay the extra $12 a month. All they are doing is praying on peoples addiction. But they are not getting a dime out of me!
    Thoreau once said "If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life." As you yourself are obviously not one of those addicts of which you speak, please harken to the words of Thoreau and stop trying to do good to those of us who might be.

    You don't even know us. You're not qualified to advocate on our behalf.

    You mind your interests, and I'll mind mine. Fair enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Thoreau once said "If I knew for a certainty that a man was coming to my house with the conscious design of doing me good, I should run for my life." As you yourself are obviously not one of those addicts of which you speak, please harken to the words of Thoreau and stop trying to do good to those of us who might be.

    You don't even know us. You're not qualified to advocate on our behalf.

    You mind your interests, and I'll mind mine. Fair enough?
    That was not directed at you, but I speak the truth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    That was not directed at you, but I speak the truth!
    The truth is, no one has to pay more to play FFXIV:ARR with the launch of HW. Subscription fees are unchanged. You are not forced to hire new retainers. You do have to buy HW to access the new content, but even then your subscription rate is remaining the same.

    So even someone addicted to FFXIV does not need to pay more to continue indulging their vice.
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    It's disturbing how they take back the 1 extra retainer with expansion thing and add even more space eating items like "Collectible Items", on top of the new gear, recipe mats, item drops, etc. to eventually force everyone to cave in and fork over money for more inventory space.

    The white knights will gladly throw money at it and the ones that repel it will eventually get over it and will be forced to hand over the money. Even those who do well in space management will eventually feel the hurt of limited inventory space.

    Those who don't want to pay and suffer from limited space are forced to get rid of things when they shouldn't be forced to play a certain way from something as small as glamouring space. I can already forecast in the future that any new incoming jobs will be behind a pay wall, because they'll have us pay for the extra soul gem space. But hey, it's not P2W because having that specific class is just glamour and doesn't give any particular advantage, right? Don't like it? They'll get over it and pay eventually.

    SE is getting bold with the idea that the players will throw away money on just about anything nowadays.
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    Last edited by Tayolynn; 06-18-2015 at 05:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    The truth is, no one has to pay more to play FFXIV:ARR with the launch of HW. Subscription fees are unchanged. You are not forced to hire new retainers. You do have to buy HW to access the new content, but even then your subscription rate is remaining the same.

    So even someone addicted to FFXIV does not need to pay more to continue indulging their vice.
    Obliviously you must not craft. Because I have 4 retainers now and 1 of my 8 level 50 crafters can FILL all 80 selling slots on my retainers. What am I supposed to do. Twiddle my thumbs and do nothing why I wait for stuff to sell? The expansion is in 2 days and they know people are going to need more spaces to sell. What a perfect time to hit them up for another $8 a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    Obliviously you must not craft. Because I have 4 retainers now and 1 of my 8 level 50 crafters can FILL all 80 selling slots on my retainers. What am I supposed to do. Twiddle my thumbs and do nothing why I wait for stuff to sell? The expansion is in 2 days and they know people are going to need more spaces to sell. What a perfect time to hit them up for another $8 a month.
    Sorry, but you are one of the people that are actively working past the necessary minimum. You're the demographic that they are aiming for with this limited business. Because they know people like you will never be content with managing what you're given. And yes, it's entirely possible to do so, but you choose to work in excess. This is how marketing works and how money is made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Sorry, but you are one of the people that are actively working past the necessary minimum. You're the demographic that they are aiming for with this limited business. Because they know people like you will never be content with managing what you're given. And yes, it's entirely possible to do so, but you choose to work in excess. This is how marketing works and how money is made.
    It's funny though, I thought we were already paying them.
    I must've been mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Sorry, but you are one of the people that are actively working past the necessary minimum. You're the demographic that they are aiming for with this limited business. Because they know people like you will never be content with managing what you're given. And yes, it's entirely possible to do so, but you choose to work in excess. This is how marketing works and how money is made.
    They are not making another dime off me! I canceled my sub and I canceled my preorder!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blissa View Post
    Obliviously you must not craft. Because I have 4 retainers now ...
    I have every crafting class, along with Miner and Botanist, at L50. In contrast, I only have 6 DoW/DoM classes at 50. I think you can verify that on the Lodestone if you like.

    So yeah, I craft. I love crafting. Crafted an Artisan's offhand for a friend yesterday, and it was thrilling when the final synthesis produced HQ.
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    Last edited by Silverbane; 06-18-2015 at 06:28 AM.

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