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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamente View Post
    They very well could take the story into new manifestations. I mean if you look at the trailer it seems like they're filling in the casting gaps in the Scions. We've got a new dark knight, a dragoon, a paladin, no clue what Iceheart would be if she does indeed ultimately sign up. We are missing a female elf after all!

    Also, they're just physical manifestations. Their death doesn't mean the death of the God itself.
    I think the scions will be alive but I also think by the end of 3.0 they'll be riding back seat to us and our new allies. (Iceheart being one of them)

    Over all I think we're putting to much stock in the title Arcon to know as little about that title and how its obtained.

    For all we know Louisoux knew the Archon legend and gave it as titles to the circle if knowing to play off of the people's beliefe in the 12 for his plan.

    While also knowing full well that it was total BS from the moment he claimed it.
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    As someone who earnestly pondered G'raha Tia's place in the world and setting after the resolution of the Crystal Tower expedition, I would strongly advise against thinking too hard about our upcoming companions and their roles after Heavensward's Main Scenario. You're only setting yourself up for some serious disappointment/heartbreak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    As someone who earnestly pondered G'raha Tia's place in the world and setting after the resolution of the Crystal Tower expedition, I would strongly advise against thinking too hard about our upcoming companions and their roles after Heavensward's Main Scenario. You're only setting yourself up for some serious disappointment/heartbreak.
    I mainly see the scions stepping back from the front lines. If they are dead then that causes it, if they re alive then I belive they'll see how much we did with out them and leave us to take the charge from there on and support our lead instead.

    As for Iceheart and Einsteian, I saw us needing Iceheart for something a while back, we can work with her with out nessicerily being her ally. As for Mr. Dragoon, I could of sworn I killed him at Steel Vigile but he aparently lived. So only time will tell how he fits in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    As for Iceheart and Einsteian, I saw us needing Iceheart for something a while back, we can work with her with out nessicerily being her ally. As for Mr. Dragoon, I could of sworn I killed him at Steel Vigile but he aparently lived. So only time will tell how he fits in.
    You misunderstand me. Ysayle and Estinien will play a roll in Heavensward, that's basically confirmed, but I would be hesitant to start printing out "long-term character" stickers for either of them, or anyone else we meet in the expansion's story. Assuming either or both of them even survive, you can be some sort of circumstances will make sure that a third Echo wielder or the Azure Dragoon of Ishgard will decide they have more "important" things to do than, say, stick around an use their abilities to help us out with the aftermath.
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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    You misunderstand me. Ysayle and Estinien will play a roll in Heavensward, that's basically confirmed, but I would be hesitant to start printing out "long-term character" stickers for either of them, or anyone else we meet in the expansion's story. Assuming either or both of them even survive, you can be some sort of circumstances will make sure that a third Echo wielder or the Azure Dragoon of Ishgard will decide they have more "important" things to do than, say, stick around an use their abilities to help us out with the aftermath.
    Oh I knew what you ment. I was using your post to clerify my stance of the Scions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    You misunderstand me. Ysayle and Estinien will play a roll in Heavensward, that's basically confirmed, but I would be hesitant to start printing out "long-term character" stickers for either of them, or anyone else we meet in the expansion's story. Assuming either or both of them even survive, you can be some sort of circumstances will make sure that a third Echo wielder or the Azure Dragoon of Ishgard will decide they have more "important" things to do than, say, stick around an use their abilities to help us out with the aftermath.
    It would continue to "fill out the family" as it were because they just happen to be the classes/jobs missing in the current line-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamente View Post
    It would continue to "fill out the family" as it were because they just happen to be the classes/jobs missing in the current line-up.
    Again, G'raha Tia (only major male Miqo'te anywhere, first and only archer). He even had all the same trademarks as the Scions, but look at where he ended up.

    I'm saying this for your benefit, I swear: watch out for the rug beneath your feet. The writers like pulling on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamente View Post
    Menphina is Thancred (the Lover)
    Thaliak is Liousioux (the Scholar and he bears his mark)
    Nymeia is Yugiri (the veiled woman)
    Nald'Thal is The Twins (Nald and Thal are two twin beings)
    Halone is Yda (the warrior and 1/2 of the bff duo)
    Oschon is Papalymo (walking stick and the other half of the bff duo)
    Byregot is Cid (the builder)
    Azeyma is Minphilia (the noble woman in charge of inquiry)
    Nophica is Yshtola (the woman of the land represented with sprig leaves)
    Althyk is Urianger (the keeper)
    Rhalgar originally was a Roegadyn that was off on a mission but would be back someday. And looks who waltzes back in, our favorite Roegadyn Moonbryda.

    I just realized I was missing Llymlean but we have 3 new potential Scion members in the Heavensward trailer including..... a spear wielder......
    Who are these twins you referred to, to represent Nald'Thal. The only twins I recall in the game are the lala sons of the roe who owns the miners guild. Did I miss anyone?

    Edit: wait no, I am dumb, I know who you mean, so stupid of me, lol. I forget about Alisaie because she wasn't in the main story much, lol.

    On a side note what about bigs or wedge could they be anyone. Or maybe Llymlaen is Iceheart. I mean, she has the echo, and is trying to "guide" you on the "right" path. And Llymlaen was the "Navigator", seems fitting.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 06-19-2015 at 12:59 AM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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    Alphinaud and Alisia are twins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreeon View Post
    Alphinaud and Alisia are twins.
    Yes I beleive I mentioned my mistake with my edit, but thank you, nonetheless.
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    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

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