Issues with tanking

[slipmac]

what i do is -
make sure to get the first hate use provoke or what ever then i aegis boon then phalanx > light stab > phalanx > heavy stab > phalanx buy that time your shield should drop so then > guard and repeat for the weapon skill i use bloodbath + onion cut, cure and keep second wind on cool down.

works for everything sept for archers.
hope that helps

[Fixy]

what i do is -
make sure to get the first hate use provoke or what ever then i aegis boon then phalanx > light stab > phalanx > heavy stab > phalanx buy that time your shield should drop so then > guard and repeat for the weapon skill i use bloodbath + onion cut, cure and keep second wind on cool down.

hope that helps

no it doesnt help. because my provoke causes less threat than one archer light shot. anyone denying the fact that gladaitor tps is way broken is just stupid. those classes never miss and can invest into accuracy and dex all day. gladiator skills give roughly just as much threat as other classes skills. so what seperates you from a lancer or a marauder that both wear plate? a shield, and thats about it.

my question is, what is a HIGHER TPS TP DUMP? NOT HOW TO USE GUARD AND PHALANX. thats completely obvious. i want to know what i have to use to dump tp on to actually hold aggro. red lotus? onion cut? howling vortex? WHICH CAUSES THE MOST TPS?

and how do i not miss? i miss every other attack with a weapon my level and to be frank its completely fucking annoying. that if i miss ONE phalanx on the pull, the other dps gets aggro and i have no way of getting it back.

this is like wow PRE BC tanking without hit / expertise on gear, and its horrible. back when you actually had to let the tank hit the boss for 15 seconds before you touched it because he would just miss attacks.

please dont take this as a flame post, as it is not. i have just asked the same question 3 times and have not gotten an answer, so im being more descriptive this time to elaborate on the problems i am experiencing with gladiator. i am rank 34 with flametongue and a lantern shield, with BIS gear and 4 +1 vit rings.

its just more of a rage post, because i cant hold aggro vs any ranger, and if my skills evade i lose aggro and its not possible to get it back again. i'm not bad, i used to maintank sunwell for my wow guild, i have 44 action points set and use every skill given to me, i also use about 15 macros.

Even if i could use skills, roughly 60% of my auto attacks miss or evade, and i am tp starved every single group im in. why am i missing so much? my 33 lancer could solo 44 efts without missing ONCE. and my gladiator is like blind in 1 eye and has a broken wrist.

[slipmac]

no it doesnt help. because my provoke causes less threat than one archer light shot. anyone denying the fact that gladaitor tps is way broken is just stupid. those classes never miss and can invest into accuracy and dex all day. gladiator skills give roughly just as much threat as other classes skills. so what seperates you from a lancer or a marauder that both wear plate? a shield, and thats about it.

my question is, what is a HIGHER TPS TP DUMP? NOT HOW TO USE GUARD AND PHALANX. thats completely obvious. i want to know what i have to use to dump tp on to actually hold aggro. red lotus? onion cut? howling vortex? WHICH CAUSES THE MOST TPS?

and how do i not miss? i miss every other attack with a weapon my level and to be frank its completely fucking annoying. that if i miss ONE phalanx on the pull, the other dps gets aggro and i have no way of getting it back.

this is like wow PRE BC tanking without hit / expertise on gear, and its horrible. back when you actually had to let the tank hit the boss for 15 seconds before you touched it because he would just miss attacks.

please dont take this as a flame post, as it is not. i have just asked the same question 3 times and have not gotten an answer, so im being more descriptive this time to elaborate on the problems i am experiencing with gladiator. i am rank 34 with flametongue and a lantern shield, with BIS gear and 4 +1 vit rings.

its just more of a rage post, because i cant hold aggro vs any ranger, and if my skills evade i lose aggro and its not possible to get it back again. i'm not bad, i used to maintank sunwell for my wow guild, i have 44 action points set and use every skill given to me, i also use about 15 macros.

Even if i could use skills, roughly 60% of my auto attacks miss or evade, and i am tp starved every single group im in. why am i missing so much? my 33 lancer could solo 44 efts without missing ONCE. and my gladiator is like blind in 1 eye and has a broken wrist.

you quoted my post but deleted
"WORKS FOR EVERYTHING SEPT FOR ARCHERS."

If you cant hit then you need acc rings not vit rings. thats pretty cut and dry.
and if anyone says they can keep hate off a full blown archer same rank i would say stfu or post the video.

"Anyone denying the fact that gladaitor tps is way broken is just stupid."
i never said it wasnt i only posted what i do.

dont take your nerd rage out on me

[oldmanlogan]

you quoted my post but deleted
"WORKS FOR EVERYTHING SEPT FOR ARCHERS."

If you cant hit then you need acc rings not vit rings. thats pretty cut and dry.
and if anyone says they can keep hate off a full blown archer same rank i would say stfu or post the video.

"Anyone denying the fact that gladaitor tps is way broken is just stupid."
i never said it wasnt i only posted what i do.

dont take your nerd rage out on me

LOL. Tanking truly does take some work. Communication with party members is key. I'm a Rank 31 Glad, and it wasnt until I got the trait "Wardrum" did holding hate get marginally better. Wipe those thoughts from your mind regarding Rangers and enmity. When rangers get going it's extremely tough to pull the mob back from them. Simply start unleahing to finish the mob off or throw him a Sacrifice or Cure. For what it's worth, i lead the fight off with "Disorient", its fast and seems more effective than an initial "Provoke." I wade into the group tih a light stab to a "Wardrum", followed up by a few Phalanx's for more enmity. If a mage somehow manages to pull from this set up, I'll quickly throw out a "Taunt" which brings the mob back to you for a brief few moments. The mob should be dead by this time frame from your damage dealers. I dont have "Intimidate" as of yet, but i'm sure it'll greatly help with holding aggro. My only gripe so far is this innate enmity that all mages have in FFXIV. An example of what I mean is, my Glad finds a paper of the "Necrologos." Hmmm, ive found a page...what the hel?! Something unexpectedly appears and bolts past me for my buddy the mage peaking from behind that rock! It's almost as if Mages walk around with a base 200 point radius effect enimity cloud at all times. Quite frustrating..