Lootmaster: The Greatest Abuse tool.

[lvlagmarink]

Seriously.. Why people are saying that lootmaster system is good for static like it's a huge advantage to have, isnt static is about trust in the first place? It's kinda like the leader of the static is questioning the looting motive of its members to perform such restriction in looting.. While i do see this gives more harm than good in term of party finder system where in culture the power of friendship is about real life friends>FC>LS>randoms.. And it's when the lootmaster will distribute the loots to their beloved one first and disband the party before the random even get a chance to get any.. It doesnt always happen.. But i know this will happen..

[Zfz]

It's good for statics because it saves a lot of hassles.

Imagine a progression static, progressing in content where the complete loot list is not known. Something drops. If you leave the loot rules at the regular need-greed, then to give the loot to a particular person, you need to have everyone else pass, and that person either need or greed. With master looting, you simply assign it to the intended person. If it's something nobody calls, then the leader can simply assign it to an all-greed roll, from where people can roll greed or pass.

Yes it is more work for the leader, but one person is less likely to err more than when the action involves 8 people. It's more reliable for one to have a list of who gets what, than to have 8 people all remember who gets what so they can pass/greed accordingly.

[IceWing]

Exactly, it's not like you can be blindsided by the rule it tells you in a bright color what the rule is so if you don't approve you can easily leave.

However would you not get punished for not joining them when the queue pops? If they want to keep all the loot to themselves in a CT or DNG then the people who queue up in progress shouldn't be punished for withdrawing from the queue, or leaving once inside.

[Sasha]

Lootmaster would be great for my static, this is because so much stuff drops to the floor.
We all assume someone else wants a certain piece cause its their main job, then they say no after most of us have passed on it,with lootmaster we don't have to worry about loot it'll atleast go to someone who needs or wants it.

[Zfz]

However would you not get punished for not joining them when the queue pops?

Loot rules cannot be changed if you join the DF. You can only change loot rules if and only if:

(1) You join as a full premade; or
(2) You select to enter content with a partial party.

In both cases, there will be nobody coming into the party from the DF queues.

[Neuflune]

I am very surprised that there is a thread about this because...

Loot rules cannot be changed if you join the DF. You can only change loot rules if and only if:

(1) You join as a full premade; or
(2) You select to enter content with a partial party.

In both cases, there will be nobody coming into the party from the DF queues.

^ This information was included in the patch notes.

Personally I would not join a lootmaster party with people that I barely know.

Want to clear that duty with other people, without using lootmaster? Then make your own party and advertise it on the party finder instead of waiting for someone else to make the party.

[Magistrella]

There are a lot of statics that are a man or two short and use the DF to fill out. Many of them will abuse the mechanic so the DF players don't get anything.

Calm your horses

Those rules can only be used in full premades or while using the undersized option. Thats why only the party leader can set it. When you use the DF with 7/8 people you cant use preset rules and it will default to Need/Greed

There are a lot of PF groups that are mostly guildmates or friends and they'll abuse the mechanic to prevent randoms from getting stuff.

If your Partyleader sets it up without telling so before in the PF youll see it in flashy color on the Duty Display, just withdraw if you dont like it and leave the group if it wasnt a mistake. And even if it will be the norm - make your own groups then.

There is nothing to panic about... read the notes more carefully - this is not like WoW where the rules could be changed at any point inside a dungeon and make it possible to ninja gear right before it drops...

[Greven]

I trust my friends enough to know they will not "accidentally" stole an item so we will not use it and on the other side I will never enter a PF as I don't trust others. The lootmaster rule may end up being used only inside statics after all which I honestly hope.

[Neuflune]

And even if it will be the norm - make your own groups then.

Some people (read: a lot of people) seem to conveniently forget that, to be honest. Anyone can make a party finder group. Don't like the groups that you see on PF? Make your own... it's not rocket science ><

It only becomes "the norm" if everyone else goes along with it even if they don't like it.

[Nadirah]

huh? ,dont think ppl are talking about FC parties here , ppl are worried about Party finder.

It's exactly what were concerned about.