Lootmaster: The Greatest Abuse tool.

[Nestama]

And they shouldn't have to be. If you join a party and everyone has locked an item, then that person has a right to that item if it drops. If the Loot Master doesn't follow their own rules, then you (or rather, the person cheated out of the loot they locked) can report them for scamming players (it does counts as scamming. Loot Master is scamming players to do content with them without the intention of giving those players what they're after. Therefore, reportable offence).

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

To all the people who are worried about having to kiss up to their fc leader now if they ever want to get a drop - why are you in that kind of fc anyway? I can, without any doubt say that my fc mates would never abuse the system on fellow fc mates. If your first thought is that your fc is gonna rob you, I seriously wonder why you are with these people in the first place o.O

I took it to mean that the FC would favor its own members, and if you're filling in a missing slot, and are not part of their FC, you're boned.

[aesteval]

I honestly don't see the point in having a lootmaster. Greed Only option I understand. I guess you could make a case that you could lock a specific drop and then the lootmaster distributes it accordingly. I suspect that if they don't follow through with this agreement, he'll be subject to discipline. Still, it's a lot of trust to place in one person you don't know well.

So far I've been running with my brother, sister in law, local friends, and a friend of my brother's. There are times where the Lootmaster option would be ideal for us. So it does have uses.

[Felis]

The exact issue is the fact that people on various servers are queued and matched with people on other servers. Just because I know some jerk that stole items doesn't mean we're even on the same server

how do you do this with premade parties or party finder parties?
Only way to play with players on other servers that I know is using DF to match you with random players, that give the party automatic the standard loot rule.

I took it to mean that the FC would favor its own members, and if you're filling in a missing slot, and are not part of their FC, you're boned.

Then don't join. You can only get in one of those parties with party invite or with party finder, not with duty finder.

[ScarletDawn]

The more pressing question is can people change the loot for DF groups...that is what im worried about.

[Zfz]

The more pressing question is can people change the loot for DF groups...that is what im worried about.

If you actually bothered to read the patch note, or even just searched for the keywords, you'll see that loot rules can only be customized if (1) you enter with the designated number of people in your party for the particular content (i.e. pre-mades); or (2) you enable the option to enter with a partial party (i.e. nobody comes in from DF).

[randysquirrel]

Give up trying to explain it, the usual the-sky-is-falling crowd cannot be reasoned with

Yes you will be forced to accept this rule in DF.
Yes the lootmaster is always someone else who always steals every piece of loot.
Yes it will happen to you every time.
Yes there is no way to avoid it
Yes they will put this rule up in PF and you will be forced to join that group
Yes you should quit now

/sarcasm (except last bit)

[Dante_V]

I don't see the issue. It's completely voluntary and mostly for statics and FCs. I seriously doubt that it will become any kind of norm for pugs and it won't take long for people to realize no one is going to join their loot master farm party. I know i wouldnt.

[Callinon]

Funny how all these horror stories from WoW never happened to me or anyone I know of during my many years of it over many different servers. I can think of hearing maybe one or two cases bout it. Masterloot abuse in WoW was rarer than rare mount drops.

Y'know me too... and I played for years.

Almost as if people are talking about this in a theoretical sense and have little to no actual experience with it. Or straight up didn't read the patch notes properly, I see a lot of that too.

Master looter is a tool. Like any tool it can be abused. You don't blame the tool for that, you blame the abuser. And I have to say that in a game this small, someone stealing loot isn't going to get away with it for very long. There just isn't that big a crowd for him to vanish in to.

[Buff_Archer]

If a group of 7 people wants to help me get a first time clear on something challenging they can have whatever drops as far as I'm concerned. And then when I'm ready to farm it and am sure I can carry my own weight, I'll have no reason to join a party in PF with loot rules that work contrary to my interests.