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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Spoekes View Post
    If both WHM and SCH are on same gear/skill and trying equally hard, I don't believe SCH and WHM get the same HP/S numbers on a fight like T13.
    SCH has a easy time inflating parser numbers with succor shields in light to medium healing intensive fights.
    But in T13 in particular the damage to the party is too high for that, medica and cure3 healbombs should heavily outheal the SCH.

    There is some kind of flaw in your parser or math, or your team has been doing one perfect try and one ultra messed up.

    How can both of you put out 1,2K (= 2,4 overall)(HP/S in my parsers is already filtering out overhealing, I suppose in yours too) on the one fight,
    and the next fight you only do 500 (=1,7K overall) and still survive?
    That would mean your party took close to 1K Damage per Second less on the second try.

    Something seems fishy there.
    It's actually not fishy. We both we're sitting at 1.2K HPS while doing T13 progression at pretty close to i130. We both had 60% over heal because the fight was new to both of us at the time and we were both treating it like we were solo healing until we could find the natural synergies between us and determine where and when we could heal. Once we got over that initial hump and I made the switch to Selene since I knew my WHM could handle most of the AoE heals himself, we got our combined HPS down to 1.6K to 1.7K (SCH = 500, WHM = 1.1-1.2K) and our total overheal down to about 30%-40% (depending on how much accidental damage our DPS took).

    With that being said, I don't know the nuances of the parser and what it can and cannot pick up with HPS as, well, I also understand HPS is a very tricky stat in terms of gauging any sort of performance. Instead, we used it as a means to find where we can find efficiencies and tune our heals according.

    What frightens me, and as I've mentioned before, HPS isn't a way to determine a person's skill - it's a way to determine a healer's healing potential. I should never, ever, have ever been able to, as a SCH, match the healing potential of a WHM who slightly over gears me. If that's a flaw with the parser in question - I can accept that and move on happily. If that's not a flaw with the parser, then I think we need to rethink the balance of between a WHM and a SCH. Of course I would prefer it to be the former than the latter and be proven wrong entirely. I'm just basing my opinion on the observations I've seen with my own group.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 06-17-2015 at 08:39 PM.