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    More retainer more venture right?
    More venture it means more chances to get rare pet isn't it?
    I'm smellin $$ to win

    Still noob with retainer services because never lvl retainer yet.
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    Gralya Arodica
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    More retainer more venture right?
    More venture it means more chances to get rare pet isn't it?
    I'm smellin $$ to win

    Still noob with retainer services because never lvl retainer yet.
    Not quite P2W, but even I'll admit it's getting dangerously close. Only games I see with such an inventory disparity between those that pay extra and those that don't are F2P games. Not going to be getting more than the 2 extra retainers I already have, but deff feel like this is a low blow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Not quite P2W, but even I'll admit it's getting dangerously close. Only games I see with such an inventory disparity between those that pay extra and those that don't are F2P games. Not going to be getting more than the 2 extra retainers I already have, but deff feel like this is a low blow.
    The retainers, given the functionality, is still very far from P2W. They could offer 100 retainers, and it'd still be rather far from P2W... given how you essentially lose for spending that much in the eyes of anyone not looking to burn some Benjamins for the fun of it, and the fact that it's entirely RNG to get something that is only useful for X amount of not-guaranteed gil.

    Only time will tell though as to whether or not they use this as their crutch of an excuse to ignore Armoire and other inventory space solutions. As much as I don't mind paying for retainers (they serve multiple useful functions that don't affect anything game breaking, afterall), even I can see how stupid of a move it was to do this without addressing the other problems when CLEARLY server capacity is not an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    More retainer more venture right?
    More venture it means more chances to get rare pet isn't it?
    I'm smellin $$ to win

    Still noob with retainer services because never lvl retainer yet.
    Not only that, but with all 8 retainers you can now sell up to 160 Items at once, where a Player without extra retainer service and just a regular sub can only sell 40 things at once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    Not only that, but with all 8 retainers you can now sell up to 160 Items at once, where a Player without extra retainer service and just a regular sub can only sell 40 things at once.
    Extra retainer sure brings lots of benefit to crafting and business. I'm still OK if just for extra storage but not for more venture and extra selling slot on market board, It's feel not right and unfair. TBH I have no financial issue but I still don't like it, I leave WoW because of Token.
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    EinherjarLucian's Avatar
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    Chalyss Hearthglenne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    Not only that, but with all 8 retainers you can now sell up to 160 Items at once, where a Player without extra retainer service and just a regular sub can only sell 40 things at once.
    This is a good thing for people who want to make more gil, I see no problem here. If anything, it might even help curb RMT by making it easier for players to make money.
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    Katarh Mest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post
    Not only that, but with all 8 retainers you can now sell up to 160 Items at once, where a Player without extra retainer service and just a regular sub can only sell 40 things at once.
    Speaking as a master crafter, I have enough trouble keeping my 4 retainers fully stocked as it is. I wouldn't be buying more retainers for this reason at all.

    I may get a 5th one because I've run out of closet space on my gear retainer, but that's just me being a fashionista. I don't need that gear. I just have it to feel pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Speaking as a master crafter, I have enough trouble keeping my 4 retainers fully stocked as it is. I wouldn't be buying more retainers for this reason at all.

    I may get a 5th one because I've run out of closet space on my gear retainer, but that's just me being a fashionista. I don't need that gear. I just have it to feel pretty.
    "Master crafters" produce small amounts of high end items.

    People who actually know how to get the real money out of the MB produce lots of lower-to-middle end, high demand items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intaki View Post
    "Master crafters" produce small amounts of high end items.

    People who actually know how to get the real money out of the MB produce lots of lower-to-middle end, high demand items.
    What makes you think I don't do that? But I also have a 0 competition policy and only produce a limited number of HQ goods for sale. I don't like to flood my own markets. Keeping my 80 slots stocked on a daily basis is enough of a challenge, trust me.
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    Lokin Modar
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    More retainer more venture right?
    More venture it means more chances to get rare pet isn't it?
    I'm smellin $$ to win

    Still noob with retainer services because never lvl retainer yet.
    Indeed it IS pay to win!

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