So what is PLD good at?

[Gildarts]

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i like how you don't know what you talking about, most of wars never overpower on T10/T11/T12 and they still pull lots DPS, but again blahblah full of your self and your lolmath "i like how everyone forget to calculate IR but w/e"

i would like you go T11 and tank sphere and let me know how much you get captain obvious

old but w/e sadly i don't play war much since i main rofldin in my static

http://s7.postimg.org/moh39k7l7/t10_442.jpg

yea im not sure why i waste my time with this crap /sigh

[SirTaint]

IR is an extremely small DPS increase and a pain to math. We also left out shield swipe which is a large boost to PLD DPS. Shield swipe >>>>> IR

10% crit bonus for 15 seconds (6-7 GCDs plus 1 BS) is going to be small no matter what. .7 crits added per minute. (best case since crit dilutes itself as the rate increase) That's 4-5 dps total.


Also why are you getting defensive? You asked for Math and FallenWings provided some. How about you add your math and we can compare instead of sitting back and being annoyed you were proven wrong.

[Gildarts]

i asked for math? i never did i always mentioned most of math done here worth nothing when it comes to actual fights, i talk content and you guys give me dummy parsers lol

and im not being defensive i provided numbers while all you guys you give math and no real parsers with PLD doing more than war

and how is im proved wrong again and annoyed?? you guys all relay on math while im talking about parsers all time since ages on those forums

again show me some parsers where PLD do more than war please, but ofcourse since second coil its been same thing, we talk parsers and you talk math over and over, every time WAR comes ahead we see a excuses left and right.

[SirTaint]

i asked for math? i never did i always mentioned most of math done here worth nothing when it comes to actual fights, i talk content and you guys give me dummy parsers lol

and im not being defensive i provided numbers while all you guys you give math and no real parsers with PLD doing more than war

and how is im proved wrong again and annoyed?? you guys all relay on math while im talking about parsers all time since ages on those forums

again show me some parsers where PLD do more than war please, but ofcourse since second coil its been same thing, we talk parsers and you talk math over and over, every time WAR comes ahead we see a excuses left and right.

I posted a parse of me beating one of Behemoths best WARs.....its extremely rare that I lose to a WAR in a parse except T13 where I turtle unless I'm with my static.

http://www.beast40.com/FFXIV/Parses/pldparse.png


We've also covered why WARs are typically ahead in parses even though the math doesn't support it. Parses are extremely easy to skew to any one job which is why they can not be the sole comparative point.

[Gildarts]

I posted a parse of me beating one of Behemoths best WARs.....its extremely rare that I lose to a WAR in a parse except T13 where I turtle unless I'm with my static.

http://www.beast40.com/FFXIV/Parses/pldparse.png


We've also covered why WARs are typically ahead in parses even though the math doesn't support it. Parses are extremely easy to skew to any one job which is why they can not be the sole comparative point.

that war doing really low dmg 420dps with i135 weapon is bad, i did around that in i125 weapon, and there is many wars around does better than me, you can check ther parsers with 450-470 DPS in T10

i already read what you call covered which is most of it isn't true, and i explained it too >.>

i also run turtle mostly on T13 since i try let healers DPS more especially on our speed kills

T12 PLD
http://s21.postimg.org/3sjuusttj/pld_413.jpg

T13
http://s8.postimg.org/9ug0gerj9/09b_JZZA.jpg

T11
http://s1.postimg.org/nlwh6aea7/Mk_Sy0_Hq.png

[Maero]

Pld's can hold agro i just find that for larger group of adds war does it better?
Not sure as i have not leveled warrior yet but just an observation.

[SirTaint]

that war doing really low dmg 420dps with i135 weapon is bad, i did around that in i125 weapon, and there is many wars around does better than me, you can check ther parsers with 450-470 DPS in T10

i already read what you call covered which is most of it isn't true, and i explained it too >.>

That's where you miss the point of parses being relative. 8min in T10 as a WAR isn't exactly ideal.

I can skew any parse to make the WAR or PLD come out ahead, so they can only be part of the equation.

WAR and PLDs can hit 475-480 without the echo in T10, but that requires a full team and a fast kill.


Again most PLDs play with terrible gear selection and use shield oath.

[Gildarts]

That's where you miss the point of parses being relative. 8min in T10 as a WAR isn't exactly ideal.

I can skew any parse to make the WAR or PLD come out ahead, so they can only be part of the equation.

WAR and PLDs can hit 475-480 without the echo in T10, but that requires a full team and a fast kill.


Again most PLDs play with terrible gear selection and use shield oath.

pretty sure im missing no point, that war is low DPS for i135 weapon and gear, fight 8 min is not excuse.


that isn't true, ilya posted parse with pug doing 470+ DPS as war with around 8min kill and no echo and so is other guy from lamia i think had similar numbers with 8mins in pugs >.>

edit

here found one parser too 7:31 fight

http://i.imgur.com/Q3Y0CBT.png

[SirTaint]

That's exactly my point. When a BLM comes in 6th the adds were up way too long which pumps WAR DPS.

Again you can skew any parse to favor any job. WAR is always going to win on multiple targets.

Unless the PLD and WAR have equal gear a parse is never a good example. Again, most WARs gear for DPS and most PLDs don't. I still see PLDs using i110s which is complete /face palm.

[Gildarts]

That's exactly my point. When a BLM comes in 6th the adds were up way too long which pumps WAR DPS.

?

http://www.beast40.com/FFXIV/Parses/pldparse.png

thats your parse, and blm also come 6th too and even did lower than parse i posted so why war did only 420?

even on single target war will pull over slightly :O