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  1. #111
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    SirTaint's Avatar
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gildarts View Post
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    even on single target war will pull over slightly :O

    Based on what? Eye balling? Trends in gear? Play style? Or are there some facts you'd like to bring to the discussion?

    The parse I posted was garbage, same as yours. Parses DO NOT tell the story, especially considering the player base and how they think jobs should operate. I play WAR just as much as PLD. I'm not foolish enough to think WAR wins on single targets. (assumes slashing debuff for PLD)

    If you want to compare a parse you need to know the layout and gear. Something like Lucerzia's parses would be worth considering because you know both players are geared correctly and play very well. (WAR edges out the PLD in this one)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0AyFjeIcaM
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  2. #112
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    Gildarts's Avatar
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    Rozaria Eleanor
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    hm
    earlier you were bragging about beating one of behemoth best wars and now you saying its shit parser because its proven he was doing shit dmg talk about hypocrite dude.

    and i pretty much i brought more facts than you and others did, you aren't only one who play war and pld many others do and most of tests dummy or content showed war does more dmg.

    all you guys do is defending your math but when it comes to actual testing i see nothing, even before when you all were defending kitru lolmath layla did parse both on dummy and also proved war does more dmg however all you guys come with excuses again.

    so besides excuses over and over what you bring to table? nothing at all

    w/e im done
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    Last edited by Gildarts; 06-17-2015 at 02:56 PM.

  3. #113
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    Hieral Kage
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Highest mitigation, longest stun chains, good shields block a lot and let you use a potent move for 40 TP, they can become invincible for 10 seconds every 5 minutes. They can blind mobs, etc, etc. Every tank stands out from another in one way. Dark Knight will be no different.
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  4. #114
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    Hieral Kage
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    Hyperion
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    Oh, and they can silence. People overlook that a lot.
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  5. #115
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    Leon Harte
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hieral View Post
    Oh, and they can silence. People overlook that a lot.
    There doesn't seem to be a lot of fights that really take advantage of the Silence mechanic over Stun, so I can see why Spirits Within might be more relegated to DPS duty.
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  6. #116
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Syfer22 View Post
    There doesn't seem to be a lot of fights that really take advantage of the Silence mechanic over Stun, so I can see why Spirits Within might be more relegated to DPS duty.
    ADS did back when first coil was relevant, but that was usually split with Bards. But Spirits is off GCD, which makes it good for any situation that needs it.
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  7. #117
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    Hieral Kage
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Syfer22 View Post
    There doesn't seem to be a lot of fights that really take advantage of the Silence mechanic over Stun, so I can see why Spirits Within might be more relegated to DPS duty.
    The annoyance of no tanks or DPS silencing Chimera in ARR The Chimera, the FATE, or the WOD comes to mind.
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  8. #118
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hieral View Post
    Oh, and they can silence. People overlook that a lot.
    Cause it's only relevant in like three eight man fights, and two of them are from first coil.
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