Accuracy bonus while I'm cleric stance?

[Gilraen]

Honestly, I'm glad only Alexander Savage will be pushing the 'Healers need to DD' notion. I'm not the best of healers and prefer to have my GCD not timing down when I need to heal. Especially when I need to heal alot. As such, I only DD when there's no healing necessary at all. Stoneskin isn't as durable as people make it out to be and Regen is just a tiny little tick of health on a reasonably geared tank. I'll often precast Cure on a tank after putting up Stoneskin and Regen cause I know Stoneskin is going to drop soon if it's a decent fight or a Primal. I don't really need accuracy on my gear. As White Mage I'm stacking piety and determination, a stat combination that tends to be pretty hard to come by as is. You know, to make sure I can heal for days with good management and not have anyone die.

[Ultimatecalibur]

Healer gear so far is absolutely shafted of accuracy.
I'm still scratching my head on the acc boost for tanks, because I sure never had a problem hitting any accuracy requirements so far.
But if healers are getting it, good for them.

The tank accuracy bonus seems to be intended to allow Tanks to put 24 to 43 (or whatever the difference between Alexander's final bosses' Front/Flank/Rear Acc requirements are) more points into Crit/Det/Parry/SkillSpeed instead of Accuracy. It also seems to have forced them to make 60/65% of the top level Tank gear Accuracy instead of the 55% that the other classes have.

[KaerisKlyne]

Which is one of the reasons they were cleared faster than he thought they would. Yoshi also said that Alex Savage will be tuned with healer DPS in mind.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought I had read that no raid content, including Alex Savage, would be taking healer DPS into consideration?

[Gilraen]

Actually, Yoshida has mentioned that Alexander Savage was being tweaked in response to the clear strategies they noticed from the Final Coil groups. I don't remember where the interview was hosted, but it wasn't from an official Square interview.

[KaerisKlyne]

Actually, Yoshida has mentioned that Alexander Savage was being tweaked in response to the clear strategies they noticed from the Final Coil groups. I don't remember where the interview was hosted, but it wasn't from an official Square interview.

I totally googled it after I posted and you're right. Thanks for clarifying!

[AdamFyi]

Truely I am concerned about it though.
I don't want good healers being pressured to have X DPS from people who they are cleaning up after. (Failed mitigations/dodges/what have you)

On that note, we still won't know how the five new skills (in the case of WHM and SCH) will affect the healer role until people try them out. However, judging by the recent information, it does seem like the new skills are tuned with DPS-ing in mind (Assize, Asylum, Deployment Tactics, and Dissipation are what I'm referring to).

In any case, an accuracy boost tied to Cleric Stance would be an awesome addition. I didn't like missing on my WHM; especially when it came to soloing B ranks and FATEs. :U

[melflomil]

Oh mods please move this to the healer thread. Thanks

[Zfz]

That reasoning is poor. I could as well say that tanks are supposed to tank...you end up deleting every single DPS spell from healers because god forbid them if they have a DPS spell and do not use it LoL (random hint: SCHs can DPS with Bio II, Bio and Shadow Flare already with 0 accuracy, so if you want to start blaming them for not DPSing, you don't have to wait SE to give them extra accuracy).

Big official hint: Yoshi-P publicly revealing that raid encounters are tuned with zero healer dps in mind. A few sentences later, he deliberately repeated that they the devs do not consider healer dps when tuning raid content.

Don't misunderstand me, too. I'm saying "healers are supposed to dps by design" is wrong. I'm not saying "healers doing dps" is wrong. As revealed by Yoshi-P, this is a choice left open for the healer and the individual parties to decide. If your healers dps, good for you for lowering the clear threshold for the party. If your healers don't dps, it just means your DPS should get their act together instead of accusing that those healers are bad.

Yoshi also said that Alex Savage will be tuned with healer DPS in mind.

That would be a very quick turn over of his statement to the press from 27th May, 2015:

このことは今回機工城アレキサンダーがノーマルとハードの2つを実装することになった理由の一因でもあります。繰り返しになりますが、開発チームはレイドの攻略にヒーラーのDPSを含めていませんので、今回のレベルキャップ開放でも他のジョブと比べて、ヒーラーとしての上昇分を足しただけと思って欲しいです。

(emphasis mine)

This is also part of the reason why we are implementing Alexander Normal and Hard this time. I want to repeat that we developers do not count healer dps in raid encounters, so (the addition of the WHM new spell) should be considered as just having the WHM dps grow along due to the level cap raise, but still only as healer.

Is there a newer source that specifically says Alexander (Hard) is balanced with healer dps in mind?

[FoxyAreku]

You must be new there then.

I remember a wipe in Ulduar because cleanse was resisted and I couldn't remove Fusion Punch and our tank exploded.

Heals/attacks being resisted (miss is physical hits only until very recently) was a thing.

Was a thing.

I don't recall talking about the past. :P Blizzard learned from that, and now Square is going to learn from it too. Healers shouldn't miss.

[Lemuria]

The problem is exactly what you said: you don't run serious endgame content. Healer DPS is extremely helpful, and very important when you're pushing new content for your raid.

Not according to the developers, who apparently didn't include healer DPS when they were balancing these fights. Considering most of these endgame fights involve high amounts of damage being thrown in your face on a regular basis, I wonder exactly how healers find time to switch to clerics stance without killing off everyone. And if they're not taking high amounts of damage, then how exactly could it be considered 'serious' content?

I'm all for DPS, but not at the expense of the party. Trying to strike a balance when people are regularly taking up to 2k damage from AoE seems like a losing battle.