The Ninja Superthread

[Judge_Xero]

Found this - Seemed Appropriate

[Ephier]

Found this - Seemed Appropriate

That huton bandaid fix was the nail in the coffin for me. GIVE ME MY GLOCK PLEASE!

[Zamii]

That huton bandaid fix was the nail in the coffin for me. GIVE ME MY GLOCK PLEASE!

well in all fairness, they could have just ignored the mudra situation entirely, at least this should provide a dps increase via an aditional shuriken/raiton as well as dampen the effect of having a poor ping.

[Ephier]

well in all fairness, they could have just ignored the mudra situation entirely, at least this should provide a dps increase via an aditional shuriken/raiton as well as dampen the effect of having a poor ping.

Of course I understand that right now with the expansion upcoming with would be probably impossible to even think about addressing that issue. My concern is when you have stuff like, http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...on_90150_ping/ that shows you difference in DPS that good and bad ping has on NIN. From what it seems like its just we going to do this to huton and leave it that way. Since I do not like the class the way it is, I will swap for now and maybe one day they will do something about it. D:

[silentwindfr]

you did miss the part where yoshida was saying that ninja didn't need any work on it? yeah, for them mudra lag work as intend naturally *nods nods*

ok let's stop to be cynical or an ass 2 second and let's see this from an objective view.

why the ninja don't need new mechanic? that a weird way to say this, since even if the jobs was introduce with the 2.4 an expansion is changing the world the possibility the jobs can offer. that a given for any mmorpg out.

it's not that ninja don't need new mechanic, it's more, they can't add new mechanic....
let's me explain what i means by this:
- first, i'm not the only one that did notice that ninja don't get new ninjutsu with this expansion.
- second, mudra lag is a reality for a lot of player.
- third, they can't fix something that work.

what i means by this, is the mudra system is working as intended, we can't go against this fact. because this system was tested in japan and in japan, the mudra lag don't exist. Yoshida when he did come in europe was shocked by the mudra lag, he didn't expect the connection to affect this much the game. and it where it become amazing, the trouble is not the mudra lag, but the net code.... the fact that the whole game is working from server side.

since they can't fix mudra lag without rewrite the net code, how they can fix it? they can't.... there we have a system that on paper and in japan is amazing, but outside japan become frustrating and random because of the lag. then it's why most of the change for the ninja don't affect mudra.... nor ninjutsu, but weapon skill, the only part that are barelly affected by the lag.

and there we have the brillant idea from the battle team... add positional, something that are too affected by lag, it's amazing to think that they did decide to add positional to ninja with the mudra...since the two are affected by the lag, any dragoon or monk can say it, it's not without reason that they did change the whole dragoon positional.

but ninja don't need work and work as intended... simply brillant!

[Arkenne]

Let's stop to being cynical or an ass

Im all up for that, tho it was never my intention.
Yyyyup, I admit I did an "aww" when I heard Yoshida say there wouldn't be many changes to the NIN.
But I still think we are looking at other kids open their xmas presents before us :/

What they gave me to understand in that speech tho, was not that they wanted to correct Mudra lag at all, but to reduce the frequency at which we need to refresh Huton, hence having the chances of throwing another Raiton -which in my case will be another Shuriken- (damned low ping privileges).
The Mudra lag issue was not addressed here at all, at least not directly, and if it was, then its pretty halfassed... I mean, this doesnt affect Suiton :v

I don't think we'll get this matter addressed anytime soon, sadly, just like DRG had the positional start up problem for quite a while or the SMN's mana issues...

5 more days >_>;;

[Zamii]

Of course I understand that right now with the expansion upcoming with would be probably impossible to even think about addressing that issue. My concern is when you have stuff like, http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...on_90150_ping/ that shows you difference in DPS that good and bad ping has on NIN. From what it seems like its just we going to do this to huton and leave it that way. Since I do not like the class the way it is, I will swap for now and maybe one day they will do something about it. D:

that thread really doesnt show anything, ninja varies a ton depending on where the crits are placed, a crit on trick attack is going to add a ton of damage compared to say a gust slash, not only that it only shows dps at that one ping, not a variance of different pings.
all it really is, is a chance for someone to show off another "i can hit big dps because crits happened when i needed them" thread.