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    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    How many times must you hear that even streamlined, that's a LOT of time to invest into getting to the ONE class you want, and a good number of people might lose their interest by that point?
    Um, too bad that they can't spend a little time doing fresh content just so they can gain access to more fresh content? Their choice. If they would rather play a sandbox game, then this game is not designed with them in mind, nor will it EVER be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Let's also not kid ourselves here - Not everyone's going to skip the story and try to zergrush to 50 using the most efficient leveling method. At 2.0, I had the option to transfer my character in, but I instead chose to start a new character (originally on Cactuar) and leveled him to 50, enjoying the story, sidequests, etc...
    Funny, the 'zergrush' method IS doing story in Heavensward. So the point is moot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Also, why does your number randomly decrease? It goes from "18 hours to 50 and Steps of Faith" to "5 hours of work"... Where did the other 13 go? Or are these made-up numbers?
    18 hours is based on several accounts in this thread, if you read back. and that is at patch 2.55.
    Itemized, that comes down to 9 hours story, 9 hours grind.

    Yoshida's statement was that MSQ will eliminate the need to grind for XP or gear, because MSQ will provide more than two times as much XP AND ilvl 90+ gear, allowing you to easily coast to Ishgard explicitly doing MSQ.
    Grind eliminated, level 1 to 50 (with i90+ gear) would then be 9 hours flat.

    Your special scenario ruled out needing to level from 1 to 30, so I did an estimate and said half as much time is needed to catch up for a level 30 player. So 4.5 hours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Honestly, I wouldn't mind finding out how long it takes a -new- learning player to get to 50 / steps of faith as a good comparison, but I think we lack the access to that information. Shame.
    Don't worry, we will have a large influx of data beginning the 23rd. And we are sure to get plenty of those newbies being carried by friends. Which is also a shame, as they won't learn jobs properly, but I digress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    You may say it "Only takes 18 hours", which, if someone plays an hour a day, is slightly short of 3 weeks just to get to a point where they can unlock a new job that they want to play. Some people might lose interest in the game by that point.
    And if they play 20 minutes a day it will take two months. But neither of these time=progress sums really mean anything. To bring it up is just a distraction. People decide on whatever time they can commit, saying someone who plays less is owed more advantages is just plain silly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    Fun Fact: Not everyone likes to play multiple jobs. I know plenty of people that only play one job because it's the "One they enjoy." Tryhardertolookcool. Then go getgud. :P
    Fun fact: If you want DRK, you had better be leveling MRD and GLA or you will suck. I mean. suck. No provoke on a tank? really? No extra cooldowns for survival? Skipping to DRK would be suicidal and punishing other players trying to "deal with you".

    You would WANT to level a tank if your goal is DRK. You would likewise want to level a healer if AST is your goal, or LNC/ARC if you want Machinist. These really are advanced jobs in the sense that they lean on what you learned in the other jobs of the same role.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    And let's not neglect, that's only for DRK/AST. I feel for those Mechanists who will basically be grinding fates solo while que'ing for duty finder. The job wasn't even the important part in my statement, it was moreso about having people be trained on what they want to play as. .
    If the player were smart and wanted fast leveling for MAC, they would level it to 50 and THEN begin the 3.0 MSQ. Yoshida already said the new MSQ will be more than sufficient to get a class from 50 to 60. So there's that.
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 06-12-2015 at 01:46 PM.