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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuga View Post
    I personally do not want DRK to have an exposed midriff. I think that feminine and sexy are often conflated, and I think that that's the problem with the DRG design for a lot of people. It seems like it's going more for sexy.

    I think that a female dark knight can still look cool, and imposing in that armor, and I think that it can maintain that while still looking flattering on a female character. Sometimes I want to look cool in a set of armor while still having my character's gender identifiable. I think that's what's so great about a lot of the FFT female character designs. They're identifiable as both the job, and the gender, without equating sex with feminine.

    That's not to say that I don't think sexy can be cool, too, or that sexy designs are unacceptable. I just think that the job designs should be modest, but still flattering to my gender.
    I see what you're saying; and i disagree. I don't think job designs should be modest, i think they should look good. Sexy looks good. Powerful, also looks good. Why is it bad for male characters to look powerful, and for female characters to look sexy? Such diversity reflects life; look at professional fitness models and you can clearly see that male fitness models look powerful, while female fitness models look sexy. And they are supposed to represent the aesthetic pinnacle of the human form.

    An exposed midriff is not a thong, and its frankly ridiculous that its being regarded as though it is. I find this kind of repressive outrage to be rather misogynistic, an attempt to deny women their right to look like women. It just isn't right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf81 View Post
    I see what you're saying; and i disagree. I don't think job designs should be modest, i think they should look good. Sexy looks good. Powerful, also looks good. Why is it bad for male characters to look powerful, and for female characters to look sexy? Such diversity reflects life; look at professional fitness models and you can clearly see that male fitness models look powerful, while female fitness models look sexy. And they are supposed to represent the aesthetic pinnacle of the human form.

    An exposed midriff is not a thong, and its frankly ridiculous that its being regarded as though it is. I find this kind of repressive outrage to be rather misogynistic, an attempt to deny women their right to look like women. It just isn't right.
    Ever stop to think maybe a female player wants to feel powerful? Such things do exist in life, and should exist in game as well. She may want to be a Powerful Dark Knight instead of a Sexy Dark Knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Ever stop to think maybe a female player wants to feel powerful? Such things do exist in life, and should exist in game as well. She may want to be a Powerful Dark Knight instead of a Sexy Dark Knight.
    And what about the lalafels that want to look like human juggernauts? who will speak for them? Why can't they look like Powerful Dark Knights instead of infant children in costumes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Ever stop to think maybe a female player wants to feel powerful? Such things do exist in life, and should exist in game as well. She may want to be a Powerful Dark Knight instead of a Sexy Dark Knight.
    I'm one of those, I want to look powerful and fierce, not sexy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuurei View Post
    The Dragoon Bellyhole is b/c FemDRGs are like Minfillia -- they wanna git that gutpunch every now and then.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Well with the DRG AF armour, it's not really practical. Aside from the obvious "stab here" target
    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    At least the dude's DRG AF doesn't have a massive open weakspot.


    Clearly practicality is not the primary concern when designing new gear. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post


    Clearly practicality is not the primary concern when designing new gear. :P
    is that what the shield for? block ya grill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post


    Clearly practicality is not the primary concern when designing new gear. :P
    He has a shield, he's fiiiine. I also continued on with my sentence how the AF armour would stab into the female characters chest if they so much as twisted or bent their body (assuming the gear is "skin tight") :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    He has a shield, he's fiiiine.
    There's a reason "Block" is a stat. Most of the time, PLD is taking those hits straight to the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf81 View Post
    ....Sexy looks good. Powerful, also looks good. Why is it bad for male characters to look powerful, and for female characters to look sexy?

    ....I find this kind of repressive outrage to be rather misogynistic, an attempt to deny women their right to look like women. It just isn't right.
    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf81 View Post
    ...why are you trying to impose your preference upon those that rolled a female character, when they might have other reasons for choosing dark knight?
    Do you see? Please tell me you do.

    Time to go read something other than Conan the Barbarian.
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    Last edited by Riastrad; 06-11-2015 at 09:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf81 View Post
    these are masculine traits. They are not feminine ones
    The funny thing is that masculine and feminine are cultural concepts and vary between cultures (and in Eorzea's case most likely between species as well).
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