New glamour dress on a male (art)

[kyuven]

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There's a strong difference between something like the Flame Elite's outfit, which has a skirt but looks more like a slightly revealing robe when worn, and isn't NECESSARILY feminine on its own (also note it's caster gear, casters get a LOT of leeway when it comes to things with skirts), and the wedding dress, Spring Dress, Bunny Outfit, and now this outfit. See, the former outfits are "gender neutral with a feminine flair," while the other outfits are strongly feminine. I know it doesn't come across this way to some people but that's pretty much it right there.

Here's the thing: Those weird things they're known for? Yeah they're weird to THEM too. You know how we watch shows like Honey Boo Boo or Jersey Shore while still mocking them and anyone who adheres to that lifestyle? It's the same thing.
The thing is Japanese culture can be extremely passive aggressive about this sort of thing.
Is it the strictest place on Earth? No, but there's an interesting reason why.
See, you're supposed to keep your predilections private, and ANYTHING that becomes public reflects on your family and co-workers. There's an entire movie based on this sort of thing that's readily available (and even got made into a Richard Gere film that lost some of that meaning) called "Shall We Dance?" Yes that's the Japanese title too. In it, a regular salaryman takes up ballroom dancing. Yes, simple ballroom dancing. However, because of the risk of his wife and job finding out and getting him ostracized, he has to keep a secret.
Thus, here's how it would play out if SE started making outfits that bridged onto ACTUAL crossdressing, rather than the grey area of the Flame Elite's outfit or Scylla's robes:
"Yes, I work at Square-Enix. I helped make Final Fantasy XIV."
"Oh...isn't that the game that was on TV yesterday where your character is the giant green man in the bellydancer outfit?"
"Umm..."
"That's kind of gross."

This is also a major reason why many actors, artists, and creators use pseudonyms even when making something innocuous. Any stigmas that get attached to the work get attached to their personal lives. So, the intention here is that they must keep their personal and professional lives separate.
Something tells me something like this happened after Final Fantasy VII, because that's the last time I remember there being male-to-female crossdressing in the main series final fantasy games.

[Oce]

There's a strong difference between something like the Flame Elite's outfit, which has a skirt but looks more like a slightly revealing robe when worn

I'm not going to bother reading the rest because?? Have you seen the skirt on its own??

[Fenral]

There's a strong difference between something like the Flame Elite's outfit, which has a skirt but looks more like a slightly revealing robe when worn, and isn't NECESSARILY feminine on its own

Yeah, right.

Run that by me again?

[Hito-Shura]

Yeah, right.

Run that by me again?

My favorite mage glamour in the game! I use that and the Colosseum set all the time when I'm on a spellcaster! If only you could dye it though...

[BreathlessTao]

Yeah, right.
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Run that by me again?

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...mine >.>

By the way - that's one piece of gear (I MEAN THE LOINCLOTH) that somewhat borders what this thread is about. The whole design is extremely unique, and at the same time extremely restricted. Not gender-wise, but still. Just...y'know, one of those things that I think many people wouldn't mind seeing a more "free" version of. Especially considering that respective Twin Adders and Maelstrom gear comes nowhere near this in "coolness" factor either.

[kyuven]

Yeah, right.

Run that by me again?

I will state it again.
It is, on its own, not feminine.
It is not a "women's" skirt, it is a unisex loincloth.

This is specifically women's clothing:






This is NOT specifically women's clothing:

(by the way finding this picture took a while compared to every other picture.)


(I actually can't tell which gender this one is! Though the lips tell me femRoe)


(Also insert nearly every other piece of gear in the game into this category. RSE doesn't count.)

And these are MALE clothing





There IS a pattern here, y'know.
Hell just SEARCHING for these will make you realize something important: If you put any of the non-genderlocked outfits into a search engine, the top results will always be a female character wearing it, the posts from the developers announcing it, or something from TERA online (I have no idea why so many Elin show up when I search some of these outfits.). I really had to narrow my search criteria to find that dude in the wrap, whereas when i just entered the item name i got 2 pages of female characters.

[lololink]

Hell just SEARCHING for these will make you realize something important: If you put any of the non-genderlocked outfits into a search engine, the top results will always be a female character wearing it, the posts from the developers announcing it, or something from TERA online (I have no idea why so many Elin show up when I search some of these outfits.). I really had to narrow my search criteria to find that dude in the wrap, whereas when i just entered the item name i got 2 pages of female characters.

Let's remove all races except female miqo'te then, others are too few to be bothered with. Same with raids. It's not because it's not used by everyone that you should not do it.
I agree having female outfits wear by male just doesn't fit, but you can have the same outfit slightly modified to fit a male body, just like the Yukata, both are almost the same but with slight adjustments, with slight adjustments you could totally give bunny outfits and bellydancers outfits to male.

The point is considering other gears made for men in the game, a dancer outfit close to the female one but for male wouldn't be "worse".
I was really happy when they decided to give us the long skirt and managed to put up the vanity you put earlier, I might glamour it again after seeing it back after some times.

[kyuven]

Let's remove all races except female miqo'te then, others are too few to be bothered with. Same with raids. It's not because it's not used by everyone that you should not do it.

You're drawing hyperbole, in the excerpt you quoted I was simply expressing that there's just not a lot of call for the outfits to the point that even searching for them using the right name turns up more results for OTHER things than it does what you're actually searching for.
All this means is there's less DEMAND for skirts (and really, let's not kid ourselves. The skirt is the part people actually want here. The top has had more detractors than supporters purely on an aesthetic front, preferring a bare chest to what the OP designed, no one has mentioned the gloves at all, and I think two or three people mentioned the shoes, which aren't really all that special to begin with and i get the feeling even female characters will be using something else for them most of the time.) for male characters, so SE must leverage what it could cost them versus how they would benefit.

Why do so many Elin show up? I'm not sure but the way people talk about it Elin get a gross favoritism as well (it sounds more extreme then our female exclusiveness here too) where Elin get all the glamor gear and even new classes all to them. Which I think is what Lololink was getting at with his post. The development team apparently decided Elin female was the most popular so that they just designed everything for Elin female. Although I admit this is hearsay only on my part.

You may be arguing for why it can't happen and not against it happening, but by doing so you are appearing antagonistic to the purpose of the thread which is not CAN it happen but we WANT it to happen and let them see what kind of support it has.

It's true, in fact there are no Elin males. At one point in development, another race known as the Popori were going to be the males...but...well...

Also remember, even though I'm saying it won't happen, I'm not saying it SHOULDN'T happen. If you want it so bad, get the item on a male character even if you can't use it. Show them you want the outfit even if you can't have it. Simply posting in a thread saying "ooo this is neat!" won't necessarily draw their attention.
Which...yeah...this thread already got. When a few people crossed the line and got the mod to axe a bunch of posts.
They're READING this, but to them it's just another in a long line of posts of NA/EU players complaining about things they want/can't have. Go a step further.
Hell, if someone cosplayed the outfit at E3 as a male it might actually do something.

[Terrini]

Hell just SEARCHING for these will make you realize something important: If you put any of the non-genderlocked outfits into a search engine, the top results will always be a female character wearing it, the posts from the developers announcing it, or something from TERA online (I have no idea why so many Elin show up when I search some of these outfits.). I really had to narrow my search criteria to find that dude in the wrap, whereas when i just entered the item name i got 2 pages of female characters.

Why do so many Elin show up? I'm not sure but the way people talk about it Elin get a gross favoritism as well (it sounds more extreme then our female exclusiveness here too) where Elin get all the glamor gear and even new classes all to them. Which I think is what Lololink was getting at with his post. The development team apparently decided Elin female was the most popular so that they just designed everything for Elin female. Although I admit this is hearsay only on my part.

You may be arguing for why it can't happen and not against it happening, but by doing so you are appearing antagonistic to the purpose of the thread which is not CAN it happen but we WANT it to happen and let them see what kind of support it has.