New glamour dress on a male (art)

[Ymal]

Something REMOTELY controversial in Japan can torpedo your company's stock prices.

Just gonna repeat myself again by saying they already have released a lot of dresses and feminine gear for men in this game since more than a year ago and the possibility to have 'gay' 'weddings'. You seem to know so much about Japan and what they are saying about such things, so any sources about how the media reacted when SE added those things to the game? Cause otherwise adding one more dress should really not break the Square Enix company.

Edit: Also you keep making Japan sound as the most serious and strict place on earth, while I agree that their live style and traditions can be very different from ours, .. it's Japan! They are known in the world for their weirdness when it comes about entertainment ! They are the masters about doing silly things for fun in front of their public. They may be extremely strict when it comes about their work lives and family but just like any other country they have their diversity in their inhabitants. I really don't see them boycott SE because of another added skirt in one of their many many many MMO game they have access to, otherwise they would have already done it.

[NimueAstolat]

Personally I don't see why anyone would want to wear OPs outfit, it looks atrocious. Males simply cannot wear women's cloths without looking like clowns. Waste of SE time to make an ugly set of clothes for males. OPs picture seems as silly as this elf

[Higashikata]

I think you're all just jealous that some men might have better looking legs than you.



In all seriousness, I think a few of the outfits in the game are ugly, doesn't mean I think people should be restricted from wearing what they want.

I think this guy preformed at my birthday when I was 8.

[Oce]

Personally I don't see why anyone would want to wear OPs outfit, it looks atrocious. Males simply cannot wear women's cloths without looking like clowns. Waste of SE time to make an ugly set of clothes for males. OPs picture seems as silly as this elf

That dress is hideous regardless of gender let's be honest. IDK what Dandelion saw in them.

[Ymal]

Personally I don't see why anyone would want to wear OPs outfit, it looks atrocious. Males simply cannot wear women's cloths without looking like clowns. Waste of SE time to make an ugly set of clothes for males. OPs picture seems as silly as this elf

lol it has still been getting a lot of support so thank you for your critic on OP's fine art? and SE always have plenty of time to make ugly ass gear without us requesting anything.

If being silly mean being able to make my character wear what I like then I surely don't mind, he's been rocking that golden thong since it came out, he'll look just as great in anything else.
Also that elf looks fab (y) the dress a little less though, ugh those colors

[NimueAstolat]

I think you're all just jealous that some men might have better looking legs than you.



In all seriousness, I don't like a few of the outfits in the game. However that doesn't mean I think people should be restricted from wearing what they want.

Is that supposed to look good? Tall with more leg showing doesn't mean he has good legs, plus that beard ugh.

That dress is hideous regardless of gender let's be honest. IDK what Dandelion saw in them.

A women would have been able to pull it off much better.

[NimueAstolat]

lol it has still been getting a lot of support so thank you for your critic on OP's fine art? and SE always have plenty of time to make ugly ass gear without us requesting anything.

If being silly mean being able to make my character wear what I like then I surely don't mind, he's been rocking that golden thong since it came out, he'll look just as great in anything else.
Also that elf looks fab (y) the dress a little less though, ugh those colors

"golden thong", ugh as if i needed reinforcement that his taste were bad enough, Gold looks cheesy on anything and thongs are not attractive at all. The elf might look fab if you have eye problems.

[Ymal]

"golden thong", ugh as if i needed reinforcement that his taste were bad enough, Gold looks cheesy on anything and thongs are not attractive at all. The elf might look fab if you have eye problems.

Personal preference dear. You don't like it, cool, but I do, that's life.

So except being aggressive toward people's opinion, are you here to add anything useful to the debate? or did you just passed by and made an account just to release a bit of anger and say you hate everything?

And I may have eyes problems, but this still look mighty fine to me and no amount of eye correction will ever change that for me.





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[NimueAstolat]

Personal preference dear. You don't like it, cool, but I do, that's life.

So except being aggressive toward people's opinion, are you here to add anything useful to the debate? or did you just passed by and made an account just to release a bit of anger and say you hate everything?

And I may have eyes problems, but this still look mighty fine to me and no amount of eye correction will ever change that for me.



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I guess good eyes can't change horrible taste

[kyuven]

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There's a strong difference between something like the Flame Elite's outfit, which has a skirt but looks more like a slightly revealing robe when worn, and isn't NECESSARILY feminine on its own (also note it's caster gear, casters get a LOT of leeway when it comes to things with skirts), and the wedding dress, Spring Dress, Bunny Outfit, and now this outfit. See, the former outfits are "gender neutral with a feminine flair," while the other outfits are strongly feminine. I know it doesn't come across this way to some people but that's pretty much it right there.

Here's the thing: Those weird things they're known for? Yeah they're weird to THEM too. You know how we watch shows like Honey Boo Boo or Jersey Shore while still mocking them and anyone who adheres to that lifestyle? It's the same thing.
The thing is Japanese culture can be extremely passive aggressive about this sort of thing.
Is it the strictest place on Earth? No, but there's an interesting reason why.
See, you're supposed to keep your predilections private, and ANYTHING that becomes public reflects on your family and co-workers. There's an entire movie based on this sort of thing that's readily available (and even got made into a Richard Gere film that lost some of that meaning) called "Shall We Dance?" Yes that's the Japanese title too. In it, a regular salaryman takes up ballroom dancing. Yes, simple ballroom dancing. However, because of the risk of his wife and job finding out and getting him ostracized, he has to keep a secret.
Thus, here's how it would play out if SE started making outfits that bridged onto ACTUAL crossdressing, rather than the grey area of the Flame Elite's outfit or Scylla's robes:
"Yes, I work at Square-Enix. I helped make Final Fantasy XIV."
"Oh...isn't that the game that was on TV yesterday where your character is the giant green man in the bellydancer outfit?"
"Umm..."
"That's kind of gross."

This is also a major reason why many actors, artists, and creators use pseudonyms even when making something innocuous. Any stigmas that get attached to the work get attached to their personal lives. So, the intention here is that they must keep their personal and professional lives separate.
Something tells me something like this happened after Final Fantasy VII, because that's the last time I remember there being male-to-female crossdressing in the main series final fantasy games.