Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

[Felis]

Also in 10 days doing the MSQ will be the fastest way to get level 50 and all the required ilevel gears (no gear farming anymore within the 2.x msq)

After playing, it felt like you've not only improved the exploration aspect, but you've also done a lot of fine tuning to the system. I got the impression that Heavensward would make a lot of changes to existing elements rather than just adding new ones.

Yoshida:We've gotten a lot of feedback about things taking too long to fix or major updates getting delayed, so we've taken this opportunity to work out some of the kinks.

When the game launches, it will be like the start of the second season of a drama, so we'll still want new players to check out the first season. We want to keep the "first season" there, but allow players to quickly move through it so that they can enjoy the "second season," so based on that, we're increasing the ease of approaching the old content.

We'll be doing an overall review of the amount of experience given by main quest rewards in A Realm Reborn as well as the equipment handed out by quests and make it such that you can simply go from A Realm Reborn to patch 2.55 and have your item level be high enough that you can equip the gear and move right on to Ishgard.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...-Event-5-19%29

[Kauthryn]

The thing is and the major appeal of FFXIV is that everything can be done on one character...

Well, I'm certain that is very appealing for some people, but others also would be pretty pleased with leveling multiple characters. This is one of those situations where addressing the problem doesn't harm anyone. If you like having one character? Awesome, you get what you want. And if you have alt-itis? Well, you also get what you want! It's a win/win/win (SE wins too because we're all happy.)

Just think of it this way, the more people that roll alts to level, the more they're going to keep playing. If that's their playstyle then accommodating it can only be lucrative for the company both monetarily and in terms of public relations. Going forward, as their market expands, I hope they evolve their design philosophy with it to be encouraging of more playing.

I mean, I've not had this much fun in an MMO since... 2006? I really hope it's around for a long while.

[kupokage]

I don't craft. Should I write to Yoshi and demand he give me another way to obtain the Ixali mount? I don't PvP. Should I threaten to unsubscribe until they allow me another means to obtain the Swan set? I don't play the main scenario. Should I insult SE for foolishly gating Heavensward behind 2.55? I don't blah blah... Should I rabble rabble...

[Kauthryn]

I don't craft. Should I write to Yoshi and demand he give me another way to obtain the Ixali mount? I don't PvP. Should I threaten to unsubscribe until they allow me another means to obtain the Swan set? I don't play the main scenario. Should I insult SE for foolishly gating Heavensward behind 2.55? I don't blah blah... Should I rabble rabble...

Are you required to have the Ixial mount in order to PVP or obtain the swan set? I believe your argument is a little specious.
Also, I don't think anyone has insulted SE?

[Reynhart]

Options thing. more options = better. Less = bad. It's the very basic design of MMOs

More options right at the beginning = not relevant when the game is designed to keep you for months.
And it's actuallt bad design to open everything right away, cause people will feel lost.

Only for the battle parts. In the whole MSQ fom 2.0 to 2.55 you do much more talking to NPC than fighting.
Just level up a battle class with FATEs parallel to your crafting class and you can do 80% of the MSQ as a crafter.

You could only accept the quest because you have a DoM/DoW at a high enough level.
And if you level a battle class, you can just do the MSQ as a battle class.

The OP issue was "What if I only want to play crafter of gatherer ?
And actually, Yoshi-P already adresses this. FFXIV v1 was designed so that you can play the game only as a crafter or gatherer if you want. ARR...isn't.

[Velhart]

I would applaud your explaining-away this gating as some sort of weak retroactive continuity...But you couldn't be more wrong in that assessment.

The city of Ishgard, since 1.0 launch, has always been at arms length but never accessible. They couldn't get away with such an obvious roadblock without backing it up with dozens of quests and NPCs explaining, in detail, why we cannot get in (let alone witness them raise a finger to support the Grand Companies' many campaigns in the MSQ), which over the past five years became an inherent proof positive that attaining such access would not be as simple as wearing a fancy level 50 outfit at the front gates. Which is exactly what people like the OP are demanding 'should happen'.

You....do know I was speaking in general about the lore team and not the particular subject, right?

[Malevicton]

How is that good at all. Everyone doing the same thing in an MMO is not how it should be? MMOs are made as living breathing worlds of the IP. That means people have, again, options to do whatever they can.

Let me give you another example:

An MMO starts out with 32 classes. 9 months after launch it decides to cut down to 9 classes, because it wants to try to get everyone doing the same goals. The MMO tanked.

That should have been what every developer learn from Star Wars Galaxies. More is always gonna be great in this sense because it will draw a larger demographics.

It's one thing that everyone has to do. Not everyone all doing one thing all the time. The msq is pretty small, really, and other than that you get an insane amount of choices. You seem intent to make this either "complete freedom of choice all the time" or "linear game with only combat." ffxiv actually gives you more choice than most other games. the msq doesn't make the whole game linear, just means we all have a common point as adventurers. You're basically asking to have entirely different games within one game. That's not a sustainable business model.

[Raist]

Only for the battle parts. In the whole MSQ fom 2.0 to 2.55 you do much more talking to NPC than fighting.
Just level up a battle class with FATEs parallel to your crafting class and you can do 80% of the MSQ as a crafter.

You are defeating the argument though... you have to level a battle class to complete the quests... because you have to win the battles. Good luck beating down a group of monsters solo with your crafting tools. Even if you are level synched, it will still be a hard win--if it is even possible.

[Velhart]

Well, I'm certain that is very appealing for some people, but others also would be pretty pleased with leveling multiple characters. This is one of those situations where addressing the problem doesn't harm anyone. If you like having one character? Awesome, you get what you want. And if you have alt-itis? Well, you also get what you want! It's a win/win/win (SE wins too because we're all happy.)

Just think of it this way, the more people that roll alts to level, the more they're going to keep playing. If that's their playstyle then accommodating it can only be lucrative for the company both monetarily and in terms of public relations. Going forward, as their market expands, I hope they evolve their design philosophy with it to be encouraging of more playing.

I mean, I've not had this much fun in an MMO since... 2006? I really hope it's around for a long while.

Can I ask though? If SE heavily advertises the fact you can do everything on one character, why would they focus resources on concepts that break away from that when they could be doing other things? The demand for something like this is not high at all and only cater to a niche group. Like I said, I am not against a BoA setup, but it simply doesn't make sense to me is all. I honestly think they have done a generous amount in comparison to how they use to work. If this was a game like WoW where you do literally have to start all over to play a different class, absolutely they should focus on perks for alts. However, both FFXI and FFXIV do not fall under that tradition, you do not have to start a whole new character to explore different roles. They worked hard to build a system and balance it so you did not feel the need to make an alt. I just don't see them focusing on this. Maybe they will do something one day, but I do believe they are better off focusing on other more important issues.

[Gilraen]

Well in XI's defense, each expansion had a different scenario. One quest I remember was tied to both RotZ and CoP was Apocalypse Nigh. In order to do that quest, you had to have beaten both those expansions because it drew conclusion to both expansions.

Actually, no...
RotZ was tied to FFXI vanilla, and you had to do the main quest until rank 5 to unlock it, BUT, RotZ is also the reason why you're allowed to enter Norg in the first place, yet, you could walk there freely to unlock NIN and SAM.
As for CoP, it's whole plot is started by the end of RotZ, they just don't mention it until very late in the story.

You missed where she specifically mentions the quest that tied Zilart and Promathia together, so I bolded it for you. Yes, you needed to have beaten Zilart AND Promathia to unlock the quest where you, literally, fight Promathia.

Append: And it's been so long I stand corrected.