Please Allow 50's to Enter Ishgard w/o having completed MSQ

[Callinon]

It still doesn't matter. FF11 =/= FF14 and FF14=/= FF11.

I used FF11 as an example because it's something a large percentage of people here have been exposed to. I could use other examples if you'd like...

You didn't need to finish Naxx40 to go to Outland
You didn't need to finish Sunwell to go to Northrend

Both of those would've been considered expansion completion in WoW.

You didn't need to finish your class storyline to go to Makeb in SWTOR
You didn't need to finish whatever the final raid ended up being in Rift to access Storm Legion.

What I'm saying is this is an MMO standard. Completion of the previous expansion's content is not normally required to access the next one, only the appropriate character level.

As for some of the other baseless assumptions people have tossed at me... (not from you)

I finished the 2.55 story the day it was released. I'm ready to go. I'm not raising this concern because I won't be able to access HW. I'm raising it because selling an expansion isn't supposed to work like this.

I also don't want free gear. I'm not sure why this always gets thrown in. It doesn't even seem to matter what the subject is. Weird.

I never said, even once, that a brand new player should be able to do the HW story without being the proper level. That would clearly be ridiculous. But being able to access the area and having access to the new jobs (specifically) is a pretty standard thing for an MMO expansion regardless of prior progression.

As someone pointed out, starting the Rise of the Zilart story required completion of the base FFXI story. That's true, and I'd forgotten about that. The fact is though, that was 12(?) years ago and MMOs have changed in the meantime. And again I'm not even talking about the HW story content. I'm talking about the areas.

[Parryacg]

As someone pointed out, starting the Rise of the Zilart story required completion of the base FFXI story. That's true, and I'd forgotten about that. The fact is though, that was 12(?) years ago and MMOs have changed in the meantime. And again I'm not even talking about the HW story content. I'm talking about the areas.

And it doesn't change the fact now. It's gated behind 2.55, it's going to stay that way.

Remember; Heavensward's story [continues] where 2.55 left off. This makes it an expansion in the literal sense, not just "oh, have a new story in the expansion area with all your old stuff and character(s)".

With that said, I'm glad it's gated behind 2.55. What I'm not glad about is Vishnap getting nerfed (two patches ago?) because people are bad and can't learn to be at least mildly competent.

[Nestama]

As someone pointed out, starting the Rise of the Zilart story required completion of the base FFXI story. That's true, and I'd forgotten about that. The fact is though, that was 12(?) years ago and MMOs have changed in the meantime. And again I'm not even talking about the HW story content. I'm talking about the areas.

Rise of the Zilart expansion also came out with FFXI when it came out in America. It was also the only instance in FFXI that required you to be a certain rank (and level?) to start that storyline. Chains of Promathia, Treasure's of Aht Urghan, Wings of the Goddess and Seekers of Adoulin had none of this.

I also believe you could unlock the RotZ Jobs before starting the RotZ Missions. You could enter Norg without beating the Shadow Lord first, right?

I still feel that new players should be allowed to unlock the new Jobs when they hit level 30 and have another class at 15. Let them experience the MSQ as a DRK, AST or MCH, without having to get one Job to 50 and i90 first.

[Nezerius]

I used FF11 as an example because it's something a large percentage of people here have been exposed to. I could use other examples if you'd like...

You didn't need to finish Naxx40 to go to Outland
You didn't need to finish Sunwell to go to Northrend

Both of those would've been considered expansion completion in WoW.

You didn't need to finish your class storyline to go to Makeb in SWTOR
You didn't need to finish whatever the final raid ended up being in Rift to access Storm Legion.

Three of these examples don't even make sense, because you're comparing the completion of high end raids to the completion of a story. One requires an organized raid while the other is mostly done solo (with the instanced parts easily done through the duty finder)

''You didn't have to finish x raid to go the the next expansion'' is akin to saying ''You don't have to finish the Final Coil of Bahamut to go to Ishgard.''