o.O Overkill on the crafting Dumb down?

[Wynn]

Yoshida had a chance to speak about the large discussion that has been revolving around the recently announced changes to crafting.

This is great, Bayohne. It sounds awesome actually, but can we address the removal of parts? I mean, a lot of craft classes are going to get completely screwed by the blanket removal of those grind recipes. Just off the top of my head there is ARM, CRP, TAN, and WVR that are going to have a VERY hard time leveling now. How will this be addressed?

[TheVedis]

This is great, Bayohne. It sounds awesome actually, but can we address the removal of parts? I mean, a lot of craft classes are going to get completely screwed by the blanket removal of those grind recipes. Just off the top of my head there is ARM, TAN, and WVR that are going to have a VERY hard time leveling now. How will this be addressed?

WVR wont be affected, their main grind to 50 was actualy cloth(using that cloth became too complex to be worth the time)

Blacksmith, Armoror, Leatherworker though...
yeah they did alot of parts to grind

[Wynn]

WVR wont be affected, their main grind to 50 was actualy cloth(using that cloth became too complex to be worth the time)

Blacksmith, Armoror, Leatherworker though...
yeah they did alot of parts to grind

I'm only like 27 WVR right now myself, but I actually find myself grinding on the clothing pieces because cloth is either too high or gives to little sp before the next cloth can be made. That's my experience anyway. Like right now, I'm grinding canvas but that's not going to be too good exp very soon, actually isn't now, but there really isn't anything else for me to do but finished items at this range. I certainly won't be able to do velveteen for at least 5 levels, maybe 6. The bridge recipe for me would be to buy some velveteen and make inner cowls until I could get to the point where I can make velveteen cloth but that will not be an option if parts are removed.

Do you have any suggestion as to what I could grind on for a 30 WVR that isn't a part (since they won't be available) or a finished item?

[TheVedis]

I'm only like 27 WVR right now myself, but I actually find myself grinding on the clothing pieces because cloth is either too high or gives to little sp before the next cloth can be made. That's my experience anyway. Like right now, I'm grinding canvas but that's not going to be too good exp very soon, actually isn't now, but there really isn't anything else for me to do but finished items at this range. I certainly won't be able to do velveteen for at least 5 levels, maybe 6. The bridge recipe for me would be to buy some velveteen and make inner cowls until I could get to the point where I can make velveteen cloth but that will not be an option if parts are removed.

Do you have any suggestion as to what I could grind on for a 30 WVR that isn't a part (since they won't be available) or a finished item?

your right, the sp does start to suck, but the other peices arent worth it either as i said

i did canvas at 20, velvet at 29, linen at 36(yarn) then linen cloth at low 40s all the way to 50

[Wynn]

your right, the sp does start to suck, but the other peices arent worth it either as i said

i did canvas at 20, velvet at 29, linen at 36(yarn) then linen cloth at low 40s all the way to 50

hmm ok I'll try velveteen when I turn 29 and see how it goes. If that works, that's one class issue negated. Thanks!

[TheVedis]

hmm ok I'll try velveteen when I turn 29 and see how it goes. If that works, that's one class issue negated. Thanks!

just a warning, itl be a hard synth, but it gets easier over time(and its not like cotton bolls are hard to get to make the yarn for it)

[Estellios]

This is great, Bayohne. It sounds awesome actually, but can we address the removal of parts? I mean, a lot of craft classes are going to get completely screwed by the blanket removal of those grind recipes. Just off the top of my head there is ARM, CRP, TAN, and WVR that are going to have a VERY hard time leveling now. How will this be addressed?

Speaking as a CRP I think the only really easy level grind recipes were the wooden masks that probably aren't being changed. I mostly stick to leves, though.

I'm willing to bet that certain gear recipes will become simple enough to grind on. At the very least simplifying the materials will make gathering a horde of them together for extended grinding a lot more palatable when it doesn't take a lot of extra steps and a large chunk of your inventory.

[Vesper]

This is great, Bayohne. It sounds awesome actually, but can we address the removal of parts? I mean, a lot of craft classes are going to get completely screwed by the blanket removal of those grind recipes. Just off the top of my head there is ARM, CRP, TAN, and WVR that are going to have a VERY hard time leveling now. How will this be addressed?

Not if new recipes are being added into the game that have lower ingredient/item totals, which I are IRC. Parts are tedious, as long as we have new recipes added in to take the place of these for grinding good riddance.

[Aeyis]

Not if new recipes are being added into the game that have lower ingredient/item totals, which I are IRC. Parts are tedious, as long as we have new recipes added in to take the place of these for grinding good riddance.

Strangely enough parts are not so tedious to make when you mass produce them.
Same goes with finished items, oddly.

I wonder why nowadays near everything we make irl is mass produced?

[Wynn]

Not if new recipes are being added into the game that have lower ingredient/item totals, which I are IRC. Parts are tedious, as long as we have new recipes added in to take the place of these for grinding good riddance.

If it is true that new recipes will take the place of the part recipes, meaning same level and grindable, then I have no problem with that. But, if that happens, aren't they essentially still parts, just a rose by another name? I'm not so sure that is going to happen. However, they might rearrange recipes and change the levels. Either way, that would be fine with me and I would no longer take issue with it.