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  1. #191
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    I just can't get over the fact that there are players so vexed that others try to play well and maximize their job that they want to drag everyone down to their level. And they don't see the irony in this, in getting incredibly mad that people are enjoying a meta towards DPS and their solution is to force others to play the way they like playing instead.

    Imagine you're driving on the road and there's a stubborn, bitter cyclist on the road ahead. Instead of giving way they just block traffic and make everyone go their pace. That's what this boils down to, small insecure people who want to make job boring and tedious to a lot of players because even though they get mad when others tell them how to do their job, they want to do the same back.
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  2. #192
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    Teno's Avatar
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    I thought this was troll topic, and unfortunately not. Healers can dps, tanks can dps, it gives flavour to the game, which lacks creativity.
    The more I play with FFXIV players, and the more I see them as old geezers unable to multi task.
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  3. #193
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    The better suggestion to the thread:

    Make end-game fights more healing intensive so there are less opportunities to allow for Clerics Stance. This will maintain the risk/reward aspect of Cleric Stance and encourage higher level play as raiders try to find the correct (and smaller windows) to use Clerics Stance.
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  4. #194
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Op, this suggestion is the worst ever. People who actually raid in a progression setting enjoy dpsing as healer. My Whm counterpart enjoys solo healing.

    If they removed the ability to toggle clerics during combat I'd quit the game. It would change my main class enjoyment that much for me.
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  5. #195
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    416to305's Avatar
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    Psycho Bunny
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Can't read every page of this but man people are seriously weird! Why wouldn't you want to be able to do CS? If you actually are SO busy healing right now that you have no time to DPS, then I'm sorry but you're not a good healer. I get it for maybe your first run or two on a new instance, sure you don't want to chance it. Once you've done it a bunch though it becomes very routine and monotonous to just heal. I personally enjoy that you can instantly flip into CS but there's a cool down to remove it, makes it a bit more challenging to me determining if I have time to quickly flip into it, hit Aero II, Virus, etc then back out. If I could just flip into it instantly and out instantly, or not need it at all, I think it would be a bit less interesting personally and if they removed it I'm pretty sure I'd stop playing. I can't even think of how many times it's me that's taking out some of the easier adds while the DPSs are still focused on the boss not even paying attention to them.

    I was playing on PS4 the other day doing WoD on the one boss can't remember the name, where the ground changes colour and you have to move to the opposite one, then it does that hour glass spinning thing as well. My friend who is a Monk is too nervous to try WoD so I thought I'd send him the footage that the PS4 is always recording. Of course I'm in a good party, so I was seriously standing there many times with everyone at 100% HP and literally nothing to do. I was like wow, this makes it look like healing is so easy, which he already bugs me about as he thinks we just stand around doing nothing all the time. I was using CS and DPSing just so that I wasn't standing still for 10-15 seconds in between needing to heal.
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  6. #196
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Instead of Healer DPS can you guys say SCH dps instead. The 50 or something dps Whm adds is kind of useless compared to the 300+dps sch adds. Its better for WHM to solo heal, because thats overall more dps for you then having both healers share the dps role.
    Im talking about times where healer dps actually matters (progression coil).
    While it's true that the majority of groups will have the SCH provide the bulk of supporting DPS, I wouldn't exclude WHMs because they, too, can push out some statistically significant numbers depending on their team comp and strategy.

    (IOW WHM DPS is by no means poor; you just don't hear about it much because WHMs absolutely require high ACC melds and have tighter timing for safe and effective CS usage)

    Also, without doing any Lodestone spying, I highly doubt that the OP has done much of any raiding and is probably basing that strange opinon exclusively on DF dungeons and CT-type raids.
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  7. #197
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    I just can't get over the fact that there are players so vexed that others try to play well and maximize their job that they want to drag everyone down to their level. And they don't see the irony in this, in getting incredibly mad that people are enjoying a meta towards DPS and their solution is to force others to play the way they like playing instead.

    Imagine you're driving on the road and there's a stubborn, bitter cyclist on the road ahead. Instead of giving way they just block traffic and make everyone go their pace. That's what this boils down to, small insecure people who want to make job boring and tedious to a lot of players because even though they get mad when others tell them how to do their job, they want to do the same back.
    You rock! Thank you for posting this.
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    Player : フェアリーのミラプリも作ってるんですか?
    (Any plan on Fairies glamour?)
    Yoshi'p Sampo: フェアリーはエギではないので、予定がないです。残念ながら。
    (Since Fairies aren't Egi so, No.)

  8. #198
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Noticed how the OP never came back?
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  9. #199
    Player
    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Noticed how the OP never came back?
    Yeah, but it doesn't matter.

    Either the OP just wanted to start something (a possibility that any of us who've posted on the forum for more than a day accepted from page 1) or felt soundly rebutted and had nothing else to contribute.

    I'd say 50/50 for either case because dropping a stink bomb isn't unheard of and the OP's position was really, really not very well thought-out.
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  10. #200
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Just because you want to sit on your ass for 90% of most fights doesn't mean the rest of us have to.
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