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    Player
    Donjo's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    A'lyhhia Tahz
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    It's not a requirement. But claiming that you need your tanking stance up 24/7 while MTing is really absurd and hinders the party in the fact that you're slowing down the run.

    Don't try it however if you're a new tank, can't keep hate normally, not familiar with dungeon, your healer isn't up to date on gear, your healer isn't familiar with the dungeon, or healer doesn't know how to heal.

    If you're new to this and want to try it. Make sure to have at least a few str accessories and you're near ilevel cap for the dungeon. Start on standard dungeon bosses and learning to manage your defensive CD's.
    So, I've seen this and the previous post of mine that you butchered. It is clear that you don't quite understand exactly what I'm saying. I'll try to summarize it better for you.

    First, I think I found a good name for Tanking roles who aren't being Tanks. Barbarians. A complete mad focus on hitting the enemy really hard that just happens to hold their attention because of just being that dangerous. Second, the points.

    * A Tank should keep their Tank Stance up when MTing. A Barbarian may choose not to.
    * It is not necessarily wrong to be a Barbarian if doing so is not actively causing wipes.
    * I never said that Barbarians suck at the game. I just said that I don't wish to be one. I personally despise the idea of Barbarians and what I believe are flaws in the game's systems that allow them to exist, but that has nothing to do with skill at the game.

    If you feel insulted because I'm saying that you're a Barbarian and not a Tank, then I apologize. I do not mean it as an insult. It is merely a new Title.
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    Player
    Instrumentality's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Eureka Evergarden
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    If you feel insulted because I'm saying that you're a Barbarian and not a Tank, then I apologize. I do not mean it as an insult. It is merely a new Title.
    I am a tank whether or not I have sword oath, shield oath, or no oath on. Sorry if that upsets you.

    If I can sword oath and survive on the boss with appropriate cooldown usage, increase raid dps and clear speed by doing so, and cause no undue strain on any particular other person by being in a non-tank stance then not being out of tank stance is not optimal tanking.

    Also you don't get to make up new things to call people just because you don't like how people are concerned with efficiency over your sense of propriety.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.