Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
If Clerics Stance was suddenly "ineffectual" in combat, you would hear all the CNJs/WHMs screaming for a new ability because that effectively makes Clerics Stance a useless ability in the spell book.
They're very loud. I still don't have something to replace Haymaker or One-Ilm Punch in my MNK skill list.

I do like the look of the new healer role skills in Heavensward, though. Aero3 seems to accomplish the AoE DPS without being near as intrusive as Holy is in parties, which I enjoy the sound of.