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    I have to agree with Justartificial. In ARR you get a quest to talk to Rowena then are directed to Gerolt. This idea is likely where the 'boost' comes in.

    At the end of Zeta, Gerolt finds something. For Heavensward, he's found it and he and Jertzol or whatever have had time to look over it while you have participated in the Dragonsong War. All you need is one Zeta, so in this scenario yes, your BRD Zeta will affect DRKs 60 Relic. Players that have not completed the Zeta step will be given a quest to aquire the item Gerolt found for Zeta. Most likely from a dungeon. Best case this will happen in the mid 50s. There may also be some 'go ask this guy' at 60, that players who finished Zeta won't need to do.
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    Don't give too much credit to the Zeta Bonus for the new relic. You remember how the old relics started? We had to find a weapon at a beasttribe camp and kill maybe 20 mobs for it to awake.

    In heavensward it's probably gonna be some super non relevant bonus like: "We need a weapon as a starting point. You have to find an old weapon in a chest at the beasttribe cam....oh wait! The weapon you are wielding could work too!"
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    I wouldn't be surprised if the bonus was just a title and allowed you to bypass one stage of the upgrade process.

    From a design point of view, it doesn't make sense to require people to grind level 50 content once the level cap has been raised to 60.

    I am willing to bet that the new jobs will get 2.0 relics, but there will be no incentive to grind a Zeta (other than glamour) once the 3.0 relics are released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damanexor View Post
    I am willing to bet that the new jobs will get 2.0 relics, but there will be no incentive to grind a Zeta (other than glamour) once the 3.0 relics are released.
    They are not getting Zodiac weapons.

    There will be Primals weapons added to trials for the jobs though,

    The new relic in 3.0 will be easier to obtain, in 3.1 it will get it's first power-up (Zenith) stage.

    The only incentives for Zeta items are already in place, Glamour and Achievement.

    They haven't said anything more about how/if Zeta will provide a boost to the new Relic progression except:

    Q: If you focus on some new growth in Patch 3.1, will all of the hard work done on Zodiac Weapons be wasted?

    A: It won't be a complete waste, it will of course be taken into account. We are actively working on this to make sure it happens.
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    Last edited by Xenosan; 06-04-2015 at 12:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustARTificial View Post
    There is absolutely no information on the 2.X relics aside from "it will give you a boost". A "boost" can just mean that you are doing 10dps more than the other guy. A "boost" can mean that if you completed a Zeta you can skip stage 1 of a new upgrading item. The latter is everyone's fantasy with no facts to back it. The former, while horribly underplayed, is probably the hard truth.

    Square Enix have been continuously making the game better for new people to get into. What the Zeta gives in 3.X, probably will not be something exclusive or game-changing. If it was, there would have been more information for it by now.
    I am pretty sure by now, if there was some grand huge benefit to completing a 2.0 relic weapon, they would have said so by now. Especially since doing so wouldn't drive away new players, because they wouldn't be losing anything to begin with, and current players would be more hooked, as well as some retired players might return. So yeah, the "benefit" is likely insignificant, possibly glamour material, or maybe an option to choose the skin of the weapon. They really couldn't give an entirely unique unfair advantage to people that already put in the work, because then those that are new would have significantly more pressure to have to go back and do so much old grind content before being able to actually play the new stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    I am pretty sure by now, if there was some grand huge benefit to completing a 2.0 relic weapon, they would have said so by now.
    Skipping a few steps for the new relics is not a "huge benefit", but it's still some time saved
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    As far as we know, owning a zodiac zeta will only allow you to buy any 2.0 relic step from gerolt for glamour purpose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    As far as we know, owning a zodiac zeta will only allow you to buy any 2.0 relic step from gerolt for glamour purpose
    This may be all there is to it. I was initially thinking that somewhere around 1/2 of the initial [new] relic quest or first upgrade quest would be eased for Zeta owners, but I'm not even sure that makes much sense. The fact that a player acquired a Zeta weapon shows that they don't really have a problem grinding out a weapon, so why reduce that grind for them specifically?

    They might do something with it, but more and more I'm thinking I won't finish my MNK's weapon. Those dungeon drops are few and far between and with the 'new darklight' being i170 it seems all but certain that a weapon above i135 will be absolutely simple to pick up after I've leveled a bit.
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    Some questions for you guys who's been playing for the past year or so because i just came back from a long break.

    1.Is there any perks to get relic weapons to Zeta stage when Heavensward is live?
    2. Will the whole zodiac questline to get the weapon to zeta be gone in the expansion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutz View Post
    Those dungeon drops are few and far between and with the 'new darklight' being i170 it seems all but certain that a weapon above i135 will be absolutely simple to pick up after I've leveled a bit.
    Once you reach level 55, everything will be better than anything you have at i135. You can trash all poetic/dreadwyrm after you beat Ravana or so. Just the time to get a few drops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madsamurai View Post
    Some questions for you guys who's been playing for the past year or so because i just came back from a long break.

    1.Is there any perks to get relic weapons to Zeta stage when Heavensward is live?
    2. Will the whole zodiac questline to get the weapon to zeta be gone in the expansion?
    perks as in, "nerfs" ? Yeah there will be. The nature of said nerfs is still unknown though.

    zodiac questline won't be gone in the expansion as it's going to be nerfed. Though starting 3.1, a new relic will come, so zodiac might become a "2.0 artifact" you can no longer get at that point, to distinguish veterans from newer players.
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