About relic weapon...

[Gallus]

ARR's relic =/= HW's relic

So no, you won't have your stats. Maybe you'll get to skip the "kill x mob with your shitty weapon" quest.

I'll find it pretty insulting if that's the case. Baiting people to spend millions on the Novus questline only to reset the secondary stats back to default will almost feel they are mocking relic quest users. But we will see.

[Kilyne]

I'll find it pretty insulting if that's the case. Baiting people to spend millions on the Novus questline only to reset the secondary stats back to default will almost feel they are mocking relic quest users. But we will see.

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

[chococo]

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

I have a feeling half of the people saying this kind of remarks is what got us the current vertical progression treadmill.

[Spiritreaver1217]

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

Agree with this. You put in the time to have 'the best' for the given time frame. Well MMOs(good ones anyways) aren't completely static and will change over time. New items will be introduced to replace the old; including 'the best' items.

I started my first relic weapon with this concept in mind as it has been this way in other MMOs i have played. And having a full zeta and soon to be second before HW hits, i'm fine with current relics being surpassed in the future.

I have a feeling half of the people saying this kind of remarks is what got us the current vertical progression treadmill.

Vertical progression done the way it is in FFXIV is preferable to the 'side-grade' gearing scheme i've seen elsewhere-in particular SE's own FFXI.

Yeah, you know that gear is going to become obsolete, but by the same token gear is relatively easy to get in a system like FFXIV's. In XI, there were BiS pieces that lasted from early exp point leveling all the way to EG and beyond in some cases. But the acquisition of those pieces was quite difficult.

For me personally, barring a combination of the two gear acquisition schemes, i'd go vertical progression anytime i was given a choice. Gearing up is so much easier and more time can be spent elsewhere in the game doing things as opposed to gearing up to in able to do things.

[Gallus]

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

Except you don't farm dreadwyrm stuff expecting it to last long. The relic quest on the other hand is all about future investment, it has always been lower in ilvl than the endgame raid weapons, so the only point of the relic weapon in the first place was this long term goal component. Now, you take this and trash it by resetting absolutely everything relic quest users have done in hundreds (maybe even thousands) of hours including the secondary stat customization from the Novus questline and all you are left with is the novelty of having a legendary useless weapon.

[Kathryn]

Except you don't farm dreadwyrm stuff expecting it to last long. The relic quest on the other hand is all about future investment, it has always been lower in ilvl than the endgame raid weapons, so the only point of the relic weapon in the first place was this long term goal component. Now, you take this and trash it by resetting absolutely everything relic quest users have done in hundreds (maybe even thousands) of hours including the secondary stat customization from the Novus questline and all you are left with is the novelty of having a legendary useless weapon.

Glamour

[Malevicton]

Except you don't farm dreadwyrm stuff expecting it to last long. The relic quest on the other hand is all about future investment, it has always been lower in ilvl than the endgame raid weapons, so the only point of the relic weapon in the first place was this long term goal component. Now, you take this and trash it by resetting absolutely everything relic quest users have done in hundreds (maybe even thousands) of hours including the secondary stat customization from the Novus questline and all you are left with is the novelty of having a legendary useless weapon.

It was BiS multiple times, and when it wasn't it was still the 2nd best weapon in the game. That was the reward for keeping up with it.

If you've been waiting this whole time for a return on investment instead of using it as a BiS, then that's your own fault.

[Lemuria]

and all you are left with is the novelty of having a legendary useless weapon.

You only now worked out that the legendary weapons aren't all that legendary? I don't expect anything special about the Heavensward relics either. Just another novelty toy which looks different but is otherwise functionally identical to every other sword, bow or staff.

[Gralna]

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

Played DAoC for twelve years, it's version of relics weapons which came out with the games 6th expansion in 2005. To this day, they are still used in endgame raiding since they are some of the best weapons in the game. Even without them, "Artifact" weapons introduced in the 3rd patch are also still considered endgame for many classes.

This is actually the first MMO I've played that just seems to throw away gear every 3-4 months.