About relic weapon...

[Gallus]

Have they said what's gonna happen to the secondary stats of our relic weapons?
Is it safe to assume our customized secondary stats (from the Novus questline) will carry over onto the next relic quests? If so...this brings me to another question...what secondary stats will the relic quests from those who start the relic in Heavensward have? Fixed? Or will they be able to customize them either?
I'd be pretty pissed if after all the gil sink from the Novus quest my relic weapon goes back to having fixed secondary stats in HW.

[Ayamia]

Maybe that is what's going to be easier for zeta owners? Secondary stats already in place. Non-zeta and DRK/AST/MCH jobs have to do that silly stuff to get the secondary stats they want. Just a speculation.

[Coltvoyance]

Nothing has been said concerning Relics other than "Players who have completed the relic quest line will receive consideration". There's tons of speculation on what that might be, but nothing more than that has been said. Everything is just rumors at this point.

[Moonleg]

Who knows if the current 'best' stats will even be useful in Heavensward? Maybe Skill Speed and Spell Speed (looking at you, SMN!) will finally be some of the most useful.

[Gallus]

Who knows if the current 'best' stats will even be useful in Heavensward? Maybe Skill Speed and Spell Speed (looking at you, SMN!) will finally be some of the most useful.

One more reason why they should keep allowing for customizable stats. What was optimal PRE HW might not be so optimal POST HW, so people might want to change them. Btw I don't main SMN, I main SCH...and my relic has accuracy. I doubt HW SCH relic would have accuracy if it were to have fixed secondary stats.

[Shamirah]

ARR's relic =/= HW's relic

So no, you won't have your stats. Maybe you'll get to skip the "kill x mob with your shitty weapon" quest.

[Gallus]

ARR's relic =/= HW's relic

So no, you won't have your stats. Maybe you'll get to skip the "kill x mob with your shitty weapon" quest.

I'll find it pretty insulting if that's the case. Baiting people to spend millions on the Novus questline only to reset the secondary stats back to default will almost feel they are mocking relic quest users. But we will see.

[Kilyne]

I'll find it pretty insulting if that's the case. Baiting people to spend millions on the Novus questline only to reset the secondary stats back to default will almost feel they are mocking relic quest users. But we will see.

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

[chococo]

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

I have a feeling half of the people saying this kind of remarks is what got us the current vertical progression treadmill.

[Spiritreaver1217]

I have a feeling half of those people asking this kind of questions are new to MMORPGs. It's an expansion, older stuff will most likely be useless at lv 60. You get your relic and use it in 2.X, and up to some point in 3.X (or skins if you wish). It's almost like saying farming FCoB for Dreadwyrm is insulting because there will be new gear in Heavensward.

New expansion, new stuff.

Agree with this. You put in the time to have 'the best' for the given time frame. Well MMOs(good ones anyways) aren't completely static and will change over time. New items will be introduced to replace the old; including 'the best' items.

I started my first relic weapon with this concept in mind as it has been this way in other MMOs i have played. And having a full zeta and soon to be second before HW hits, i'm fine with current relics being surpassed in the future.

I have a feeling half of the people saying this kind of remarks is what got us the current vertical progression treadmill.

Vertical progression done the way it is in FFXIV is preferable to the 'side-grade' gearing scheme i've seen elsewhere-in particular SE's own FFXI.

Yeah, you know that gear is going to become obsolete, but by the same token gear is relatively easy to get in a system like FFXIV's. In XI, there were BiS pieces that lasted from early exp point leveling all the way to EG and beyond in some cases. But the acquisition of those pieces was quite difficult.

For me personally, barring a combination of the two gear acquisition schemes, i'd go vertical progression anytime i was given a choice. Gearing up is so much easier and more time can be spent elsewhere in the game doing things as opposed to gearing up to in able to do things.