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    Blueyes's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    According to some lucky fella from Reddit who went to the Nantes Event, AST's Haste is fundamentally different from Skill/Spell speed increase.

    It's the buff that actually reduces your Cooldown on skills by 20% (300 Sec Cooldown *0.8 = 240 Sec Cooldown), but the benefit is not retroactive, meaning if your skill is already on cooldown and you receive the buff, that particular skill will not benefit from it.
    There are actually two different cards, one which does as you describe, but then there is another with a 10%(25%) speed buff. (Can read more here and here.) I do have to wonder if the buffs from Selene will have their percentages adjusted in light of how skill and spell speed will work in 3.0, but in the meantime I'll assume they will be left unchanged.
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    There are actually two different cards, one which does as you describe, but then there is another with a 10%(25%) speed buff. (Can read more here and here.) I do have to wonder if the buffs from Selene will have their percentages adjusted in light of how skill and spell speed will work in 3.0, but in the meantime I'll assume they will be left unchanged.
    I have the same suspicions about selenes buffs being changed. I imagine its going to happen one of 2 ways: the change in skill/spell speed is going to be significant enough to alter the damage output of classes that stack these stats as to warrant selens buffs being nerfed OR the changes to skill/spell speed is going to be insignifiant in the grand scheme of things and selene will stay the same. Magic christmas land wants buffs to skill/spell speed to be significant and selene unchanged.
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    There are actually two different cards, one which does as you describe, but then there is another with a 10%(25%) speed buff. (Can read more here and here.) I do have to wonder if the buffs from Selene will have their percentages adjusted in light of how skill and spell speed will work in 3.0, but in the meantime I'll assume they will be left unchanged.
    Actually, the speed buff from Astrologian is similar to Monk's Greased Lightning and Ninja's Huton (assuming the translation is correct). Both of these give the user an "attack speed" increase. But in reality they also reduce the GCD of weapon skills and spells. Spells?! Yes, spells. You can confirm this by removing the soul stone and cross classing Cure. Meanwhile Selene's Fey Light and Fey Glow only grant the user skill- or spell speed. It wouldn't be strange if the effects would stack, but Selene's buffs wouldn't double stack on top of haste. Because haste doesn't give the user skill- or spell speed. So if we assume the translation is correct and indeed gives the same kind of "attack speed" as Greased Lightning and Huton does, I don't believe there is a need to tweak Selene's buffs.
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    Last edited by Lyrica_Ashtine; 06-04-2015 at 01:49 AM.