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  1. #271
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    Haru's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Haru Miaru
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Theovon View Post
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    I think the best solution has been said before matches need to be made outside of the player control for tournament settings. Something like duty finder would be best. That way everyone playing in the roulette would be gunning for a win. It would be impossible to know in advance who you would be playing or strategise a way to beat the deck. There should be no forms of bonus of any kind, simply win, draw, loss. The roulette would take care to make sure you play players within a reasonable score of your cards (say rated 1 point for every star). If a player has rating of 200 from 51 cards you could be matched with 180-220 etc. You could not complain then being matched against 3 star decks all the time..

    As you can tell the problem with the tournament is incredibly complex, or you could just remove the MGP bonus and then everyone would stop playing once they have the cards and the tournament would die.
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  2. #272
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    NJA's Avatar
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    Tesla Silvermane
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    some people are just worse because they think of moral in the internet
    This in a nutshell encapsulates the absolute worst thing about the Internet. It is astonishing how people think basic concepts of human interaction do not apply if they are sitting at a computer screen.
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  3. #273
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    Omc Sham
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I apologize if this has already been suggested but why not just a special TT queue/finder system like how DF works. WoW (forgive the reference, but sometimes they do things right) uses something similar for their pet battles. Join for a random opponent.

    Then it would be a simple matter of awarding overall ranking based on W/L record (more likely to be fair because it won't be as easy to play against your friends/alts). Obviously, you run into the issue of "well, what if the random opponents are all terrible" but no system is perfect and this would greatly improve on the current system. And over the course of 35 games the chances of you only playing garbage opponents is smaller. And I assume its possible to start awarding a ranking based on w/l and matching based on that as the tournament goes on.
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  4. #274
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    thendcomes's Avatar
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    Octopus Royalty
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    If everyone stopped viewing the competitions as tournaments then this discussion would be more productive. These are not tournaments, and no finagling of the award algorithm will cause it to be a tournament. A tournament demands that players can't choose their opponent, so until that happens, this is just a competition to get the most points.

    Furthermore, putting TT games on the Duty Finder will not help. You can easily manipulate who you queue into by queuing German or French language at off hours.
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  5. #275
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    Ninimo_Babamo's Avatar
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    Totomi Blomi
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    The languages are not needed for TT though and could be removed as options.

    I agree that the "tournaments" are a problem, but I truly think the real problem is the game itself. There is absolutely no room for expansion or differentiating yourself from other players in TT. Tetra masters had almost an unlimited supply of cards because of how different each could be. Even if we double or even triple the amount of cards we have in TT, everyone will always use nearly the same exact decks. There is just no room for this card game to be great and expand. Enjoy it while you can.
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    Last edited by Ninimo_Babamo; 05-30-2015 at 07:21 PM.

  6. #276
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    Elegance's Avatar
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    Elegance Ebonheart
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    Tonberry
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Does any happen to have a good deck lying around for elemr for tourney? I've been using the "usual" one that floats around, but I have my triple decker and wonder if there's better options now.
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  7. #277
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Its better to dual the weakest npc rather then elmer. Fighting elmer is not worth it considering the points you lose on a draw/loss.
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  8. #278
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegance View Post
    Does any happen to have a good deck lying around for elemr for tourney? I've been using the "usual" one that floats around, but I have my triple decker and wonder if there's better options now.
    I dueled Guhtwint for 35/35 wins, and am currently sitting on 3, 045 points. Here's hoping to 3 plat-I mean, Shiva packs!
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  9. #279
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    Balfour Lai
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    Lamia
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    Botanist Lv 50
    I am just going to say it. Put the cards elsewhere like you did the Lightning Card. Its bad enough I have to spend an insane amount of points on gold packs to try and get cards with a crap RNG rate let alone the Cloud Card. I am frine with fighting NPCs and doing instances for them, but only in the triple triad tournaments and gold packs? Really? The platinum packs are as bad as the gold packs or not worse and you can only get some every two weeks if you are lucky or cheat.

    How cheating isn't against the ToS I do not know. Even if you cheat, you will probably get out-cheated by someone with more friends, FC-mates, and alts to get the bigger point wins. I am only in these things to try and get the cards because I want to collect them, but its near impossible with the very low chance of platinum packs to get them, and my luck I will get Lightning cards, which I got from Tataru anyway. Only if I stop getting Shiva and Ultima Weapons which i went and got by farming their instances
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  10. #280
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    Rynia's Avatar
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    Rynia Tenendora
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kakeh View Post
    The platinum packs are as bad as the gold packs or not worse and you can only get some every two weeks if you are lucky or cheat.
    FYI, if all you want is the platinum packs all you have to do is get a certain number of points, usually about 3-4k. I do this by playing the first NPC in the gold saucer and thrashing him until I've used up all my allowances ...

    I know that goes against what you're supposed to do given it's a "tournament" but when nobody else plays fair I think I'm entitled to just play to get the packs =P
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