Extreme 4 & Savage 24 please :)

[Selli]

It's hard enough to get 8 people to do Savage coil, and back when i90 was the ilevel cap, trying to do Garuda -> Ifrit EX for the weekly went about as well as pugging t12 and t13 does now. Now we all out-gear extreme primals that it's not really that big of a deal. Just as we all over-gear LotA and ST which were much more challenging at their respected ilevels.

It'd be incredibly difficult to gather 24 people for a savage/extreme/whatever 24-man raid and expect all of them to successfully preform flawlessly, you'd probably end up wiping to the same thing over and over again more often than getting anywhere because it'd be so easy for a couple of people to mess up. Not to mention the amount of people and mechanics going on would be horribly confusing and overwhelming to meet the difficulty of savage content (could you imagine being in a TS3/Mumble/Raidcall/whatever with 23 other people and trying to clear t7 savage at the same time?). I mean, you see what happens in current WoD when half of an alliance goes down? Everything can easily go to sh*t because you no longer have the people necessary for the mechanics.

So no. Please no.

[randysquirrel]

It's not often I completely U-turn my opinion, but I guess if it was pre-made group it could work

could you imagine being in a TS3/Mumble/Raidcall/whatever with 23 other people and trying to clear t7 savage at the same time?

And this makes me want to try it even more lol

[Xatsh]

It'd be incredibly difficult to gather 24 people for a savage/extreme/whatever 24-man raid and expect all of them to successfully preform flawlessly, you'd probably end up wiping to the same thing over and over again more often than getting anywhere because it'd be so easy for a couple of people to mess up. Not to mention the amount of people and mechanics going on would be horribly confusing and overwhelming to meet the difficulty of savage content (could you imagine being in a TS3/Mumble/Raidcall/whatever with 23 other people and trying to clear t7 savage at the same time?). I mean, you see what happens in current WoD when half of an alliance goes down? Everything can easily go to sh*t because you no longer have the people necessary for the mechanics.

In older mmos people did this all the time. Sometimes with 40+ppl.

It is not that hard at all. WOD is made up of pugs, which will always be vastly subpar to an organized group.