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  1. #11
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    Emperor: I am your father.
    WoL: ?!
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neri View Post
    Emperor: I am your father.
    WoL: *stoic nod*
    ftfy

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  3. #13
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    maybe he will actually assist the warrior of light with a decent airship to defeat Bismark (eorzean ones are barely fit for combat at this stage)? while he will obviously try to conquer eorzea in time he desires to get rid of the primals as much as we do, so perhaps it's a temporary truce to destroy bismark?
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    maybe he will actually assist the warrior of light with a decent airship to defeat Bismark (eorzean ones are barely fit for combat at this stage)? while he will obviously try to conquer eorzea in time he desires to get rid of the primals as much as we do, so perhaps it's a temporary truce to destroy bismark?
    If the garleans learn that those with the echo can turn themself into primals (like Iceheart), it will be not only the beastmen he will kill.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    If the garleans learn that those with the echo can turn themself into primals (like Iceheart), it will be not only the beastmen he will kill.
    Doesn't have to know that yet, they already hate people with the echo as it is. It likely won't be the case but considering the beastmen in the background I imagine it would be around bismarks arc, garleans offering airship support to remove a primal isn't as crazy as it may sound as a desire for primal defeat is the one thing eorzea and garlemald have in common.
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  6. #16
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    Tea Mysidia
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    I'm actually not surprised that we are meeting Emperor Varis (must....not.....make.....game of thrones.....jokes). He is the freshly elected monarch of a neighbouring empire. I anticipated a diplomatic meeting to happen sooner or later. What surprised me is that he is meeting with our little group and not saaay Merlwyb or the Elder Seedseer. At least we have Cid with us. That sure won't be awkward.
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  7. #17
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    Chen Kotomi
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    I'm hoping he's practical enough to realize that the person who slaughtered 3-4 of his generals, defeated 6 primals, and defeated a weapon designed to kill said primals is probably someone you'd want to negotiate with and give a wide berth.
    If he's hellbent on conquering and subjugating Eorzea, and if he opposed the Meteor project, then there are more effective methods that brute force at his disposal, especially since he's shown evidence so far of being the type of ruler to manipulate outcomes in his favor.
    It's also in his best interest to either ensure the Dragonsong war continues (thus distracting the Ishgardian troops) or ends in the Dravanians' favor (as said dragons, to his knowledge, made no promises with any Eorzeans for support against the Garleans, while at least one Ishgardian House has at this time). Plus while his generals didn't manage to take out the Eorzeans, Gaius/Nael's ships DID manage to, as far as he knows, take out the grand daddy of all dragons.
    It's really quite intriguing to consider which route he'll take, and even moreso to wonder just how much he knows of or is involved with the Ascians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    I'm actually not surprised that we are meeting Emperor Varis (must....not.....make.....game of thrones.....jokes). He is the freshly elected monarch of a neighbouring empire. I anticipated a diplomatic meeting to happen sooner or later. What surprised me is that he is meeting with our little group and not saaay Merlwyb or the Elder Seedseer. At least we have Cid with us. That sure won't be awkward.
    Maybe it's because he knows who to actually talk to when it comes to power matters in Eorzea, "fallen" or not.

    ...

    I still need to get those "Gaius Was Right" shirts printed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Maybe it's because he knows who to actually talk to when it comes to power matters in Eorzea, "fallen" or not.

    ...

    I still need to get those "Gaius Was Right" shirts printed.
    He could just be saying, "Do you see why Eorzea needs conquering?"
    Yea, maybe we should've listened to Gaius.

    Quote Originally Posted by jomoru View Post
    Or he's going to make peace with Eorzea and the Warrior of Light.. except you know his crazy Clown Legatus has different ideas..
    I laughed irl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
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    I won't be surprised if SE pulls the "Ascians are behind everything" reasoning again. After all Ishgard constant war with the Dragons seems to be caused by the Ascians from behind the scenes and I won't be surprised if it Ishgard was the ones who started everything in the Dragon Wars considering the words said in DragonSong hints of a distorted truth in Ishgard's history.

    DragonSong lyrics
    Children of the land do you hear
    Echoes of truths that once rang clear
    Two souls intertwined
    One true love they did find
    Bringing land and heavens near
    But flames that burn full bright, soon fell dark
    Memories dimmed by shadowed hearts
    In the waxing gloom did wane the lover's moon
    Watching as their worlds drift apart
    One soul's cry
    A passion dwelling within
    Sacrifice, a final plea to her kin
    Yet this bond of hope, by treachery was broke
    Scattering her words to the wind
    Swelling over long,
    seas of blood, are a song
    And death an afterthought
    To those who fight for naught
    A throne, lying empty
    A reign, incomplete
    Alone, for eternity
    A pain, without cease
    Children of the land, answer this
    Why must you turn to empty bliss
    Tell me why break trust, why turn the past to dust
    Seeking solace in the abyss
    Tell me why create, a circle none can break
    Why must you let go, the life you were bestowed
    This I fear I'll never know
    Never know

    As for the Emperor...

    There are other ways to conqurer a civilization than through military force. For example, slow intergration of Garlean culture into their society until the old society's culture is completely replaced by the Garlean Culture as one method.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 06-02-2015 at 12:27 AM.

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