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  1. #11
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    I was just kidding man it's called a joke.
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    Yeah all 5 of them.
    QFT.

    The complainers, at least to me, are people who are used to the current system, and don't want it to change for fear of either new competition, sudden realization that all their time has been wasted for naught, or have somehow forced themselves to find the complexity of it all 'fun' and 'rewarding' and don't want it dumbed down. Or some combination of these.
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    ZOMG the power of CHEESE!!! 8-O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll View Post
    Yeah all 5 of them.
    While I actually think these proposed changes are generally good - I don't think you make your argument stronger by calling down people who disagree.

    I can understand why people might be unhappy with the changes, especially if crafting is all they generally do. It will probably take some of the immersion out of it.

    While it is frustrating to need 72 different items synthed together by 5 different crafts in 10 different ways to make a Acton (I once spent 3 hours shouting for crafters, scouring the wards and generally making myself crazy to get a Canvas Acton for myself) - the complexity of it is satisfying for some people.

    It is like if dungeons were made "simpler" by getting rid of all the side rooms and strategy... so you just zoned in and fought the last boss. It might be more "convenient" but a lot of people might think it was not as fun.

    /shrugs.

    So yeah. I generally like the suggested changes but I have sympathy for those who don't.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    QFT.

    The complainers, at least to me, are people who are used to the current system, and don't want it to change for fear of either new competition, sudden realization that all their time has been wasted for naught, or have somehow forced themselves to find the complexity of it all 'fun' and 'rewarding' and don't want it dumbed down. Or some combination of these.
    That's what I'm thinking. I know there's a lot of Crafters that put in a lot of hard work getting to where they are now and I sympathize with them but the way the system is now drives people away from crafting.
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  6. #16
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    ya honestly your not the only person who crafts dude. just coming out and saying your opinion doesnt matter cuz u might not have 10 50 crafts are u kidding me? lol i love crafting even as it is but it is kinda annoying to need like 15 things made by different jobs to make it like Lux said. For my champ's lance i had to wait like 2 weeks cuz my LS had to get like 10 different ppl to craft all the HQ mats lol was annoying~. And especially as ARM oh god needing to have support crafting jobs and all these different things leather, cloth, dyed leather or cloth, goldsmith stuff, blacksmith stuff sometimes. I dont mind it tbh i can get it done, but hey i wont complain with the changes change is always good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    not all of the new changes are good man...
    In your opinion.

    You forgot that.

    I like all the changes and so do most people. After 2 weeks of this update no one will even remeber all this *** just like (list time)
    1. aggro icon
    2. quest markers
    3. auto attack
    4. timer on raids
    5. dark matter. etc.

    These are all things people *** about then once the game in updated they stop ***... and trust me the same thing will happen here then another thing to *** about will come up and the cycle will repeat.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNO View Post
    In your opinion.

    You forgot that.

    I like all the changes and so do most people. After 2 weeks of this update no one will even remeber all this bitching just like (list time)
    1. aggro icon
    2. quest markers
    3. auto attack
    4. timer on raids
    5. dark matter. etc.

    These are all things people bitch about then once the game in updated they stop bitching... and trust me the same thing will happen here then another thing to bitch about will come up and the cycle will repeat.
    LOL i know right, haha its true nobody will even remember the old days of this game after the changes. Its true even to the people who quit and decided to come back now after a few changes, and they dont even remember the way the game used to be.
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  9. #19
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    Haha seriously! Remember the people complaining about the Enmity Icon? "I don't want a blinking red light it will be too distracting!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaimera View Post
    LOL i know right, haha its true nobody will even remember the old days of this game after the changes. Its true even to the people who quit and decided to come back now after a few changes, and they dont even remember the way the game used to be.
    lol its so funny
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