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    Xaimera's Avatar
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    Xaimera Zeal
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    ya honestly your not the only person who crafts dude. just coming out and saying your opinion doesnt matter cuz u might not have 10 50 crafts are u kidding me? lol i love crafting even as it is but it is kinda annoying to need like 15 things made by different jobs to make it like Lux said. For my champ's lance i had to wait like 2 weeks cuz my LS had to get like 10 different ppl to craft all the HQ mats lol was annoying~. And especially as ARM oh god needing to have support crafting jobs and all these different things leather, cloth, dyed leather or cloth, goldsmith stuff, blacksmith stuff sometimes. I dont mind it tbh i can get it done, but hey i wont complain with the changes change is always good.
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    Haha seriously! Remember the people complaining about the Enmity Icon? "I don't want a blinking red light it will be too distracting!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roll View Post
    Haha seriously! Remember the people complaining about the Enmity Icon? "I don't want a blinking red light it will be too distracting!"
    hahahah lol its so funny lol. my fav is the jump war. "i don't want to see people jumping ahhhh!!!!!"

    LMAO kills me
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    I like the changes. People like to QQ for everything.
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    I (try to) enjoy crafting and like the changes..It'll make my crafting a better experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalObsidian View Post
    I (try to) enjoy crafting and like the changes..It'll make my crafting a better experience.
    Of course it will make it a better experience, as of right now, unless you have several crafts leveled you spend %60 of the "crafting process" not actually crafting, but looking for parts and/or someone who can make those parts. It can take upwards 30 minutes just to craft one piece of gear, its more a chore than its fun actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    Of course it will make it a better experience, as of right now, unless you have several crafts leveled you spend %60 of the "crafting process" not actually crafting, but looking for parts and/or someone who can make those parts. It can take upwards 30 minutes just to craft one piece of gear, its more a chore than its fun actually.
    Indeed sir! Even though my craft jobs aren't a high rank, it still takes ages getting materials to craft, and then starting all over again >.< Heck that's probably why they're still low rank, just haven't had time to run around all over getting my materials..
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    Luna Sushima
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    Don't Squash it, till you tried it!

    Nuff' said

    " Not a crafter, but with everything if you throw something away before you tried it, you may come to find out you actually love it". Words mean nothing Actions speak louder than words my friends!
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    Esk N'tania
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    An a lot of what you said the QQ's agree with, (>.<)
    Shame you miss the point of some/a lot of the other constructive posts OP, a lot of the changes have been welcomed by a huge majority, its only 2 areas and some of the market impact that is being worried about/argued against (and even then most accept the area needs some change).

    And the trolls+want it easy/simple people are lumping all the changes/QQ'ing whatever together rather then taking each part and its effect alone and when added to the others..
    What about reading the alternative ideas that would also do much the same without gutting the system?
    And also point out ways to make crafting easy at low level, and maybe even make it more enjoyable?
    Or what all the people pointing out the actual crafting will change little overall, other then having fewer recipes and it being easy to get finished items to vender as everyone can make things with much to no effort?
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    Last edited by Esk; 08-19-2011 at 10:32 PM.

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    Aedida Aldricht
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    There's no problem to protesting change, if we didn't protest to some extent then SE wouldn't be getting some valid critique.

    Not all changes are good, and your opinion is not the only one who wants to be heard.

    Blindly +1 every change that comes about until they happen to change one thing you never thought would be.
    SE's dev team should be challenged. If you read some of the propositions other threads have made, you'd realize that there's more to this than you've wrapped your head around yet.

    The changes made in this new patch are lazy, not thought through enough, and were posted days before the patch would come. It was merely teased in past threads, which made us think it wasn't such a BOLD move.

    Here's what I thought when I heard recipe changes were being made:

    Culinarians would rejoice! Less complicated recipes for food, and perhaps a new dye system!

    Here's what we got:

    No parts, easily crafted gear not just for lower ranked items, but for all finished items entirely.
    It's nice for you that you've gotten that Buffalo Horn'd item in the past when it meant something right?
    Since certain items are being done away with like grips, and parts, where does that leave your horn?

    When crafting meant something, like patience, and wasn't revolved around the "NOW" mentality, crafters could feel a sense of accomplishment. By removing parts without looking at alternative options it feels like, to me this is an incredibly lazy move that mirrors the half assed job they did with the battle system.

    Nothing against the battle system itself, but the patch was shoddy, I've seen glitches in it I wasn't even aware were POSSIBLE (For some reason, I've seen shields do back flips during casting, wtf is up with that?) and all together, it looks like it was barely given a second thought.
    There happens to be a population that enjoys crafting, would like to see it adjusted, not just flat out gutted like the patch notes would like us to believe. On top of a quote from some letter, or dev translation, we're aware that crafting is getting a semi-back seat for the moment, but this is almost cruel.

    At least we could rank up off of parts, which were easily made and NPC'd or stored for later. :/ The recipes did need a little pruning, ranks for certain items needed to be swapped (ie rank to create velveteen cloth should be lower than making velveteen sleeves, for the sake of having no parts higher to create, than the part you're making) and if they wanted to make an even better option instead: Give us a separate inventory to store up to 20~ ingredients.

    Honestly, a little critique is good. Not everyone is a raving lunatic. To every complaint thread I see, I feel like the "I +1 this, you QQing twats!" are far more rude. :/ Please explain to us, in detail, why this is good in more words than "it's easier."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
    Not you, Oscillate_Wildly.
    Not you.

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