o.O Overkill on the crafting Dumb down?

[Okiura]

As I posted elsewhere, us not knowing the context within which these changes will live makes it very difficult to evaluate them fairly.

There is little-to-no detailed information about the materia system, or how it works.
There is next-to-no information about this "customizing gear for particular classes, which is reflected by color".

Perhaps the whole thing will come together and be magic. However, taken out of context (as it must be, since that is how it was presented), it appears that the crafting system is being stripped of whatever depth it currently has, with essentially nothing presented in its place. We will still have the same synthing system, that I enjoy very much for crafting items for actual use, but which is terrible upon massive over-repetition for grinding up ranks.

With the highly simplified recipe system shown, I can only assume that the materia system (in terms of what crafters acually to to slot them) will be simple and uninspired. After all, slotting a single materia is zero risk, and so will surely be something like a repair. The depth and interesting parts of the materia system may be great for those that use them (combat classes), but the crafters will likely be robots doing boring repetitive tasks in the background.

In the end, I don't see how this improves gameplay for crafters (rewarding skillful play, from Matsui), or how it points to such an improvement in the future. I certainly hope that there is, and that Bayohne will give us a glimmer of hope.

maybe it will come together, maybe i am taking it out of context. but the way is read it atm is:

let use FFXI's crafting system (recipe wise) then use FFXI's synergy system to enhance gear.

now i played FFXI for the best part of decade and had no issues with the crafting system but FFXIV is not FFIXV if you make a new game you improve things. and stripping the synths to what you would expect to find in FFXI is not an improvement.

[syntaxlies]

maybe it will come together, maybe i am taking it out of context. but the way is read it atm is:

let use FFXI's crafting system (recipe wise) then use FFXI's synergy system to enhance gear.

now i played FFXI for the best part of decade and had no issues with the crafting system but FFXIV is not FFIXV if you make a new game you improve things. and stripping the synths to what you would expect to find in FFXI is not an improvement.

maybe wheel did not need reinventing.

[Aeyis]

maybe wheel did not need reinventing.

Maybe we dont really need to use electric motors instead of the ones based on fuel.

i think the one thing most crafters are scared of that they aren't mentioning is the drop in prices for crafts. Eliminating parts will result in more crafts being made which will cause prices to drop. Also we will see an emergence of new crafters which will further cause the number of crafts to go increasingly making prices drop even more.

Not a crafter are you? Just yesterday i made about a dozen rank 22 tools, which took me about 15 minutes to do. I sold those for 25-30k each.

Now what part of that implies high prices, or crafters not making items?

[syntaxlies]

Maybe we dont really need to use electric motors instead of the ones based on fuel.


Not a crafter are you? Just yesterday i made about a dozen rank 22 tools, which took me about 15 minutes to do. I sold those for 25-30k each.

Now what part of that implies high prices, or crafters not making items?

a motor is still a motor just like a wheel is still a wheel. It would be better to compare a wooden wheel to a rubber wheel or something like that. Its the difference between inventing and innovating.

anyways, please show were i said prices are to high, thank you.

[Okiura]

maybe wheel did not need reinventing.

then why not just add ffxiv grahpics engine to ffxi?

ant the same time we can drive a model T Ford with a hybrd honda engine in it

[syntaxlies]

then why not just add ffxiv grahpics engine to ffxi?

ant the same time we can drive a model T Ford with a hybrd honda engine in it

you can do anything you put your mind to, well maybe someone with a mind but you get the point