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  1. #311
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre View Post
    CNJ/THM
    Which is duuuuumb.

    It'll be interesting to see how thinks play out without E4E and Virus on a healer.
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    Nihility's Avatar
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Which is duuuuumb.

    It'll be interesting to see how thinks play out without E4E and Virus on a healer.
    There's actually more sources saying conjurer and arcanist, with their own class specific swiftcast
    It kind of makes sense, would need conjurer, arcanist, and thaumaturge cross class skills to heal properly and they know it so had to clone a skill to make it fit
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    Lycoris Selunis
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    The 'ast swiftcast' was a bit of a misnomer, it sounds more like an 'ast presence of mind'. its a hastey buff. WHo knows? maybe the lack of E4E and virus was intended as a balancer since ast gets so many other buffs with their cards and things?
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I wish I could read Japanese, lol. But I have seen the translation for this so now I'm saddened. ; ; Oh well.
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    Ragnar Sigurdsson
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by LycorisSelunis View Post
    The 'ast swiftcast' was a bit of a misnomer, it sounds more like an 'ast presence of mind'. its a hastey buff. WHo knows? maybe the lack of E4E and virus was intended as a balancer since ast gets so many other buffs with their cards and things?
    Sch has E4E, virus, SS 30%, SC 30%, healing potency 20%, -20% magic damage, sacred soil... How many has AST? less than SCH i think :3
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  6. #316
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana View Post
    SCH buffs!! How many has AST?
    Beats me if I know, but at least AST is getting TP/MP restoration support, as well as power boosts for party members and also casting speed boost (much like SS I guess). All from the cards...

    I think they can spare E4E and Virus >__>;;
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  7. #317
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkenne View Post
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    The cost reduction buffs sure are cool, and there was an unnamed spell that spreads buffs meaning you could spread your strong card buffs to allies most likely. In addition, the spell that grants 50% of healing to another target, could perhaps include healing done by other players? Who knows. Also the info on ast dps skills mentioned though their actual damage was lackluster, that they tended to have debuff effects as well.

    Not to mention the spell list we have for ast right now is just too small to possibly be all their skills. ><;; only time will tell I guess but man is it hard to wait.
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  8. #318
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Which is duuuuumb.

    It'll be interesting to see how thinks play out without E4E and Virus on a healer.
    The average healer barely uses these abilities or just uses them wrong, anyway. I doubt many people will notice the difference.

    For static play, sure, it would be nice if AST could cross-class Virus to mitigate damage from powerful adds, which are almost always physical in nature.

    For DF play, I'd be thrilled not to have yet another untraited Virus cast at random to screw up the SCH/SMN Virus application.
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  9. #319
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
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    All true. My main complaint is that CNJ + THM is the same as SCH which makes it kind of boring. lol

    I have seen people talk about Supervirus needing to be on all healers if Proshell is, since in things like the Coils Supervirus is the best mitigation tool. Basically, if Proshell is given to everyone out of balance, then so should Supervirus. I was also think about that as well.

    I don't think E4E and Virus are exactly needed, I just think it will be strange that a Solo AST won't have access to these abilities if they are not available to someone else.
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  10. #320
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    I guess they considered swiftcast more important than virus?
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