Heavenward job quest unlock requirements

[Kaiser-Ace]

That's how base classes work, will we also be able to pull cross class skills from every class and set twice as many as other jobs?

Look forward to a few threads titled "Seriously, after getting a job to ilvl90 and through the MSQ, I also have to have specific classes leveled to 15/30 to unlock the new jobs?" in the first few weeks of the expansion.

uuuuh, Dark Knight specifically uses GLD/PLD and MRD/WAR cross skills, if you're doing Dark Knight in 3.0 it's probably because you know you like tanking. And if you're a level 50 tank that doesn't have flash, provoke, and the other essentials I WILL question how you got to 50 to begin with.

This is not really an issue it's seems to be more of a "I don played da 2.0 jobz now letz me steem rollz mah new dudez". Because the only people I see that have a problem seem to be the ones that want all the rewards of a high level player with out putting any of the effort in. Fun fact, most new players will get all classes to at least level 5 before deciding which they like best. That already teaches several core abilities from each skill tree. Provoke, Stoneskin, and Swift Cast are the only staple abilities that take a significant investment to get. But ya know, it's not like most players haven't had a few months advance notice that heavensward needs Steps of Faith finished and that the new jobs wouldn't have base classes or any thing..... Oh wait.......They did.

I think you and several other people are just being thrown off by the "No Crystal" quirk and are sore that you'll actually have to do more than half a day's worth of content to optimise your skill set.
And I'm a console player so don't give ME any BS about "The woes of the cross bar" because I do quite well with half the skill icon space or less of a PC player.

[StouterTaru]

The lack of job crystal has nothing to do with anything, I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up (or even where you're getting it from)

Fun fact, most people will want to try out all 3 of the new jobs, and all they've been told is they need to finish the MSQ. I'm just saying that a lot of people won't be able to unlock all 3 of them right away like they are expecting to..

[Dante_V]

It doesn't bother me one bit. I think the people wanting to "start the game at the end of the game" are the ones being a little ridiculous and I think that notion that "the new people won't be able to level up or get groups" is completely absurd. All of the people queuing for leveling the 3 new jobs will add SUBSTANTIALLY more activity to the duty finder in both low level roulette and all 30+ dungeons.

[Kaiser-Ace]

The lack of job crystal has nothing to do with anything, I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up (or even where you're getting it from)

How do you mean? What makes me think it's throwing some off or are you questioning the statement that there will not be a Dark Knight, Machinist, or Astrologen job crystal? Because as far as the later goes, Director Yoshida said very explicitly in one of his live letters that there would be no Job Crystals for the three new classes due to them not having base classes. (No point if there's no base class)

As for the former, it's as reasonable of a guess as any when the BS logic I've seen so far about locking the jobs in 3.0's content will kill the Duty Finder and make it impossible to level and other BS.

[StouterTaru]

I looked through the old live letters and couldn't find anything anywhere on new job crystals, but that's inconsequential information that I would skim over because it means nothing.

The logic I stated was previous jobs have required 2 classes leveled to a certain point to unlock, one being the base class. Therefore it's not unreasonable to need to "Have the appropriate classes/jobs high enough (MRD and/or GLA for DRK)" Nothing about the duty finder or job crystal.

[Kaiser-Ace]

The "Leveling issue" is still irrelevant. You WILL have at least one lvl50 by the time you unlock this because you have no choice.

And if you didn't grab cross skills along the way it's your own fault not the system's.
Any one interested in all 3 would have gotten most if not all classes to at least 15.
I have all my classes at 34+ so since I'm interested in MCH and DRK then I'm already good from my Tank off job and my DPs main.

[Nadirah]

Start the game at the end of the game? The hell?

[Nadirah]

You're under the impression that we're getting a whole new set of duty roulettes, we're not. 1-49 and 51-59 will all be Low Roulettes, Hard (Will be what it is now) and Expert will be the level 60 dungeons. There is no grand scheme to oust the new players as you seem to think there is and FYI Duty Roulette and Duty Finder are linked so get ready, Sastasha and Qarn aren't going anywhere.

I'm referring specifically to the trials that already have hour long waits for tanks.

[StouterTaru]

Start the game at the end of the game? The hell?

Level 30 new jobs are the real endgame.

And yeah, the pre-50 trials are horrible for all jobs in duty finder, but they are cramming everything together in roulette so it might not be as bad.

[Kaiser-Ace]

Yo act like making the classes available from the start will fix that. Thats not a system problem thats a community problem.

Most of the time its not that the tanks aren't cueing its that there aren't any to start with. Double for healer. Adding more classes won't make those jobs any less stressful so its not going to add a substantial number to the pool