Never thought I would see dps queues faster then healer.

[ChaozK]

In terms of difficulty, they already mentioned that healer dps would be considered when balancing the dps checks in alexander savage, so it might be more challenging in the future. This might also be the reason why whm got so many new ways to dps (although granted most groups will likely just wait till they are overgeared and the checks can be met without healer dps).

[xxhieixx]

In terms of difficulty, they already mentioned that healer dps would be considered when balancing the dps checks in alexander savage, so it might be more challenging in the future. This might also be the reason why whm got so many new ways to dps (although granted most groups will likely just wait till they are overgeared and the checks can be met without healer dps).

Eh...I really don't like the whole "healers need to dps thing" I do it since I want to optimize my class but it hasn't been something I ever really enjoyed. Disappointed to hear that they commented on implementing this more =/

[KisaiTenshi]

Eh...I really don't like the whole "healers need to dps thing" I do it since I want to optimize my class but it hasn't been something I ever really enjoyed. Disappointed to hear that they commented on implementing this more =/

Nowhere has that been said. Nobody yet knows what the new skills are, just speculation based on what they've seen. Nobody knows how they will yet be used in the dungeons.

If it's anything like at ARR release, the healers DPS has never mattered if the DPS were at or above the levelsync. The complaints back THEN were how hard Amdapor Keep and Wanderers Place were too hard unless you had maxed out on darklight gear (with is ilevel 70), and people were actually gear-checking (this was before the ilevel requirements) to kick people who weren't wearing all darklight.

It's not unreasonable to think that they may have made the dungeon difficulty harder because players are using healers to raise the party DPS up when the gear minimizes damage taken. So what that means is that they could make everything hit harder even with BiS gear, or make the monsters react differently to healers DPS.

In other news...

Healer Queues were nearly instant today.

[Seku]

Snip.

Actually they were talking about adding it into raids, healer dps that is. They also are doing a lot to have healer's basicly auto heal so they can dps and if Pld's new move, where you heal them and everyone around gets a shield, is short on it's cool down, then you have that on pld too to further push for healers to DPS. While it's not something that will be "bare min" right now, it would appear they are heavily pushing for it.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Actually they were talking about adding it into raids, healer dps that is. They also are doing a lot to have healer's basicly auto heal so they can dps and if Pld's new move, where you heal them and everyone around gets a shield, is short on it's cool down, then you have that on pld too to further push for healers to DPS. While it's not something that will be "bare min" right now, it would appear they are heavily pushing for it.

Actually they said the opposite. They said healer dps will be needed to meet dps checks when trying to clear in lower than intended item level, just like FCoB, but they are NOT adding healer dps in to their dps calculations.

[Cynfael]

Eh...I really don't like the whole "healers need to dps thing" I do it since I want to optimize my class but it hasn't been something I ever really enjoyed. Disappointed to hear that they commented on implementing this more =/

Do you need to learn how to DPS as healer to optimize your class? Yes.

Are DPS clear minimums currently set with the assumption of healer DPS? No.

[LycorisSelunis]

In terms of difficulty, they already mentioned that healer dps would be considered when balancing the dps checks in alexander savage, so it might be more challenging in the future. This might also be the reason why whm got so many new ways to dps (although granted most groups will likely just wait till they are overgeared and the checks can be met without healer dps).

They have said exactly NOT that. http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...-Event-5-19%29
DPS calculation includes dps and tanks at an intended ilvl. If you are clearing below that ilvl in the vein of world-first, your healers are probably going to have to dps then. But the encounters are NOT balanced on that.

[ChaozK]

They have said exactly NOT that. http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/125...-Event-5-19%29
DPS calculation includes dps and tanks at an intended ilvl. If you are clearing below that ilvl in the vein of world-first, your healers are probably going to have to dps then. But the encounters are NOT balanced on that.

The post you are quoting was written prior to the release of that link.
Earlier translations were actually directly contradicting this bit:

"They increased the offensive power of the WHM, not because they want them to be real DPS but because they first didn't expect the players to have the healers DPS in coil, they were surprised to see the top parties do that and they changed their plan. When they do the new raid they now take healer dps into consideration, that will be a major difference between alexander normal and hard, in the normal mode dps check they don't take into account the healers' damages."

So there are conflicting informations about how they handle healer dps in heavensward. I am more inclined to believe the more recent link you posted though.