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[Menae]

Except their Aero 3 missed =P

I hate you because it's true.

[Waliel]

We clearly need to have a small accuracy buff added to Cleric Stance like tanks.

[melflomil]

That should mean that Thunder applied in Ley Lines would be buffed quite a bit yes? Looks like using Sharp Cast on pre-pull thunder will be most wise.

Edit: and if that is really the case, WHMs with Presence of Mind, using Aero 3 will be ridiculously powerful lol

I can see it now as a SCH. Get that useless spell speed buff caused by Crit healing (Will be useful now lol). Hey Guys I just got a spell speed buff. I'm going to cease all healing and put up all my DOT. Good Luck.

[Xenitan]

What do you mean by this?

With a few assumptions:

5 spell rotation (this can end up being wrong)
260 potency on BIV/FIV (calculated it out earlier)
Cannot cast 3 Fire IV spells in sequence

You get about 74 potency with Firex5

at best with n casts of Fire IV you get:

1:77
2:80
3:82
4:84

Given current gear, that's about a ~60 DPS upgrade casting 4 Fire IV spells.

Optimally time-wise you cast 2 fire IV spells (2nd and 4th) to go from 16.2 seconds to 16.5 so your higher potency does have a bit more weight, otherwise the loss of procs shortens the AF part. Here the increase would only be 30 DPS. Honestly, Blizzard IV might impact on your DPS more: you're going from blizzard (68 pps) to Blizzard IV (86.6 pps) but this probably comes at the cost of losing rotation freedom.

DPS increases are DPS increases. I just think people are expecting a lot when I think it's very possible Summoners will be much stronger out of the box than us.

[Judge_Xero]

That should mean that Thunder applied in Ley Lines would be buffed quite a bit yes? Looks like using Sharp Cast on pre-pull thunder will be most wise.

Edit: and if that is really the case, WHMs with Presence of Mind, using Aero 3 will be ridiculously powerful lol

If it is "Reduce Cast Times" VS "Increase Spell Speed" then it will have no difference.

Although I'm certainly curious about how Sharp Cast will work with Thunder. Whether it's a guaranteed proc per tick for the duration of Thunder and whether it would be overwritten by casting the proc, as usually "weaker" spells don't overwrite stronger ones.

[Aikaal]

Although I'm certainly curious about how Sharp Cast will work with Thunder. Whether it's a guaranteed proc per tick for the duration of Thunder and whether it would be overwritten by casting the proc, as usually "weaker" spells don't overwrite stronger ones.

I feel it won't matter how it works. Sharpcast F1 sounds smarter. You might want to use Shardcast to control your mobility for fights.

[Skeith-Adeline]

DPS increases are DPS increases. I just think people are expecting a lot when I think it's very possible Summoners will be much stronger out of the box than us.

For myself, seeing the dps changes of Monk put me off compared to our class since they seemingly got their weaknesses cleaned while our weaknesses were amplified lol. They got more damage, and ways to get their top damage faster while we get... comparatively nothing.

[Judge_Xero]

I feel it won't matter how it works. Sharpcast F1 sounds smarter. You might want to use Shardcast to control your mobility for fights.

If it did work that way with the Thunder Procs that would be pretty sweet for movement as you would have a swiftcast T3 between each F1 with the potential of a Firestarter Proc.

But that whole scenario is probably too OP for it to work that way 24s of guaranteed Thundercloud procs weaved between each F1 with SharpCast T3, especially with LeyLine and stacked spell speed. 1.5s GCD = F1, T3, F3, T3, F1, T3, F3, T3, etc

[Garotte14]

So have you all talked about this Enochian? I am highly confused on how this is going to work. I understand fully what was explained at the Live Letter, but is it going to be our job to keep Enochian up at all times? First, does the reset timer go all the way down to 5 seconds? As in 30, 25, 20, 15, 10, 5? They might have mentioned that part, but I missed it. Second, a full Astral Fire rotation we're looking at roughly 20 seconds give or take depending on whatever SS boost we get and how many procs/movement we might have. If Blizz IV will refresh Enochian minus 5 secs and is to be used immediately after Blizz III since we have to be in UI in order to even use it, I can only see us getting maybe 3 AF rotations in while Enochian is up. Unless we have to cut our AF phase short to refresh. At the point Enochian refreshes to 15 seconds, we would only be able to get off maybe 6 GCDs in those 15 seconds which would need to include a Fire III and and Blizz 3 which would only give us 1 Thunder and 3 fire casts. So I guess I'm just really curious how this is all going to work. Maybe were just going to be bouncing back and forth between our current rotation and the Enochian rotation which would make more sense. I'm just hoping we are not going to have to be constantly cutting our AF phase short just to refresh the buff cause that seems like it would be a dps loss.

[nugglets]

So have you all talked about this Enochian? I am highly confused on how this is going to work. I understand fully what was explained at the Live Letter, but is it going to be our job to keep Enochian up at all times? First, does the reset timer go all the way down to 5 seconds?

The fact is we won't know for sure until we can try out all the various options. That said, there would be no need to go down to 5 seconds on Enochian. It sounds like you could, but the recast is 90 seconds so refreshing to the 15 second mark would mean it was back up, if we do indeed want to keep 100% uptime on it. Read up the last few pages, there is quite a bit of theorycrafting about Enochian and F4/B4 and the new optimal rotations.