The Other Side of The (Raid) Force

[Whiteroom]

For now, yes it is right, keep in mind these are all optional storylines you are talking about. I have not even completed second coil myself, namely because I cannot dedicate the time commitment to a static. I have accepted this and decided to watch the story on youtube. Is it the same as doing it, no, but it is acceptable for now. Remember, this was content designed to make those very skillednplayers happy. There is a ton of easier content, literally everything besides coil and primal exs, that doesnt have a "insanely difficult" version to make those skilled ayers happy.

Also, if you absolutly have to experience the story by entering the dungeon, there will bwe the option to enter with less players and not level sync. So you will be able to enter all the coils with 7 people at ilvl 200 or however high, and smash them.

[VarinaVashai]

Fair argument but where story is concerned everyone should be able to see it ESPECIALLY when they pay the same sub fee as everyone else.

I dont see why money always gets involved in this discussion, its a poor argument for why you should be able to see all content just like that. You pay the subscription to play the game, you put your efforts and hard work into experiencing the content. Some of the content is easier to complete while the rest is more challenging.

To make all content easily accesable the desire to see said content goes down. And your own desires, diminishes the experience to the individuals that enjoys challenging content. Just accept that there are content for all sides, appreciate what you can. And keep trying for what you have still to achive.

But dont bring money as a reason as to why you feel entitled to do all content at a whim.

[Kathryn]

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I was not bringing it into the argument as some sort of self entitlement I was just making him aware we all should have the same right to see story content it should not be locked out and there are many other ways for making challenging content for all those other players out there who want to do it for their loot.

[Kallera]

I don't think its right, and i hope Alexander provides a something for more players to enjoy together, then if people want the hard version they can get the hard version.

If(and this is if, i know they said they aren't going this way) the way things are now actually got worse(as in more harder, more exclusive) in hw, I think eventually you'd see less raiders and more animosity between the haves and have nots.

[Kathryn]

I don't think its right, and i hope Alexander provides a something for more players to enjoy together, then if people want the hard version they can get the hard version.

If they way things are now actually got worse in hw, well I think a eventually you'd see less raiders and more animosity between the haves and have nots.

Actually they have done right in Heavensward as they see the current locking of story behind hard group progression as wrong, There'll be a normal mode of Alexander for people to experience the story and the Savage mode for raider's to go bludgeon themselves in.

[Kallera]

Actually they have done right in Heavensward as they see the current locking of story behind hard group progression as wrong, There'll be a normal mode of Alexander for people to experience the story and the Savage mode for raider's to go bludgeon themselves in.

I should emphasize the IF. I know of the two modes, and I think it sounds like a good idea.

[Kathryn]

I should emphasize the IF. I know of the two modes, and I think it sounds like a good idea.

Saw your edit and I agree.

[Bhuni]

If people cared about the story that much they'd put in the effort and get good, we were all bad once none of us went into coil farting on each turn after turn well besides Lucrezia lol.
Though they're is talk of a story mode coil for those that 'care' about the story just don't expect any welfare gear.

[Keylus]

1- Go to youtube
2- ????
3- Profit


If they do an easy mode I wish that it doesn't give gear at all, or it gives gear worse that the gear you can get in dungeons. If they give gear better that the one of dungeons then the optimal process the get geared could be going at the easy mode each week then go to the hard mode, people could get tired of that raid if they do it 2 times per week

[Kathryn]

If people cared about the story that much they'd put in the effort and get good, we were all bad once none of us went into coil farting on each turn after turn well besides Lucrezia lol.
Though they're is talk of a story mode coil for those that 'care' about the story just don't expect any welfare gear.

See thats just a snide remark, NO ONE has asked for gear they only want to see the story so get off your high horse and stop hiding behind the welfare gear argument its invalid.

1- Go to youtube
2- ????
3- Profit


If they do an easy mode I wish that it doesn't give gear at all, or it gives gear worse that the gear you can get in dungeons. If they give gear better that the one of dungeons then the optimal process the get geared could be going at the easy mode each week then go to the hard mode, people could get tired of that raid if they do it 2 times per week

Again another unwanted nor needed comment NO ONE asked for gear, seriously get over yourselves AND I will say it AGAIN have you tried getting a group for Lower Coils lately, It's fairly impossible due to a lot of inactivity or people just not wanting to go unless you pay a FC millions of Gil.