RIP Astrologian

[Alberel]

For those lamenting the fact that AST has lower base heal potency than the other jobs you're kind of missing something: that lower base potency comes BEFORE the benefit of their stance, and they always have one of the two stances up.

One of the stances adds a free regen to all their heals, the other adds a free barrier to all their heals. Who wants to bet that when you combine the base potencies with the bonuses you get a rough throughput equivalent to the other healers? It would obviously be underpowered if this wasn't the case and SE has generally been pretty good with balance so far.

[TheMunimai]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...94#post2975294

Translation from the Live Letter - says you can switch between them, no mention of a out of combat limitation.

[Allyrion]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...94#post2975294

Translation from the Live Letter - says you can switch between them, no mention of a out of combat limitation.

Yes, but reports of the out of combat limitation has come from other sources since the NDA got lifted.
Check here and here.

They didn't want to change the WHM and SCH dynamic, so AST can fill in for either.
It can't, however, do both at the same time (which would just make them the best) which is why you can't switch stances in combat.

I hope it still feels unique to play.

[Keylus]

It's sad, but change stances during battle would be too OP, too much versality

Does somebody know if the AST shields can staks with SCH ones?

[TheMunimai]

SNIP .

WELL FINALLY!!

Someone linked something!

I'll still wait until HW to actually test it myself, but thanks for the source all the same.

[Spiritreaver1217]

For those lamenting the fact that AST has lower base heal potency than the other jobs you're kind of missing something: that lower base potency comes BEFORE the benefit of their stance, and they always have one of the two stances up.

One of the stances adds a free regen to all their heals, the other adds a free barrier to all their heals. Who wants to bet that when you combine the base potencies with the bonuses you get a rough throughput equivalent to the other healers? It would obviously be underpowered if this wasn't the case and SE has generally been pretty good with balance so far.

Ironically, a lot of the comments made about AST were made toward SCH when it was first added back in FFXI. AST will have it easier though imo, it is bridging the gap(and building its own spot on said gap) between two healing classes; SCH in FFXI had to do that between a healer(WHM) and a dmg dealer(BLM).

[SongJoohee]

Yes, but reports of the out of combat limitation has come from other sources since the NDA got lifted.
Check here and here.

They didn't want to change the WHM and SCH dynamic, so AST can fill in for either.
It can't, however, do both at the same time (which would just make them the best) which is why you can't switch stances in combat.

I hope it still feels unique to play.

Please don't use mine or Orange Jedi Mans docs as direct sources, we collected information and shouldn't be treated as a proper source like a proper interview from a real journalist should be. You should be asking or providing sources directly from the press.

For those wondering the source for not being able to switch in combat is from Dengeki online.

ただし注意点として、戦闘中の切り替えは不可。パーティ編成を見て、あらかじめ切り替えておく必要がありそうです。
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/056/1056760/

[Lillia]

Please don't use mine or Orange Jedi Mans docs as direct sources, we collected information and shouldn't be treated as a proper source like a proper interview from a real journalist should be. You should be asking or providing sources directly from the press.

For those wondering the source for not being able to switch in combat is from Dengeki online.

ただし注意点として、戦闘中の切り替えは不可。パーティ編成を見て、あらかじめ切り替えておく必要がありそうです。
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/056/1056760/

Thank you so much. >.< I was going around looking for where this even started from... it clears it up though.

[Allyrion]

Please don't use mine or Orange Jedi Mans docs as direct sources, we collected information and shouldn't be treated as a proper source like a proper interview from a real journalist should be.

For those wondering the source for not being able to switch in combat is from Dengeki online.

ただし注意点として、戦闘中の切り替えは不可。パーティ編成を見て、あらかじめ切り替えておく必要がありそうです。
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/056/1056760/

Didn't mean to imply you were direct sources.
It's much easier to link the compilations, honestly.
It's stated clearly in both your docs that the information is second-hand.
So if they want to delve to find the original sources, it's still a step in right direction.
The Dengekionline is actually sourced in orangejediman's doc too, ableit through another doc...

Thanks for the link though!

[AmalahRose]

Ah there was a mistake in that article, it's been corrected to read thaumaturge and conjurer for cross class now, so we will have Swiftcast after all.