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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    Yes, but reports of the out of combat limitation has come from other sources since the NDA got lifted.
    Check here and here.

    They didn't want to change the WHM and SCH dynamic, so AST can fill in for either.
    It can't, however, do both at the same time (which would just make them the best) which is why you can't switch stances in combat.

    I hope it still feels unique to play.
    Please don't use mine or Orange Jedi Mans docs as direct sources, we collected information and shouldn't be treated as a proper source like a proper interview from a real journalist should be. You should be asking or providing sources directly from the press.

    For those wondering the source for not being able to switch in combat is from Dengeki online.

    ただし注意点として、戦闘中の切り替えは不可。パーティ編成を見て、あらかじめ切り替えておく必要がありそうです。
    http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/056/1056760/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Please don't use mine or Orange Jedi Mans docs as direct sources, we collected information and shouldn't be treated as a proper source like a proper interview from a real journalist should be. You should be asking or providing sources directly from the press.

    For those wondering the source for not being able to switch in combat is from Dengeki online.

    ただし注意点として、戦闘中の切り替えは不可。パーティ編成を見て、あらかじめ切り替えておく必要がありそうです。
    http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/056/1056760/
    Thank you so much. >.< I was going around looking for where this even started from... it clears it up though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Please don't use mine or Orange Jedi Mans docs as direct sources, we collected information and shouldn't be treated as a proper source like a proper interview from a real journalist should be.

    For those wondering the source for not being able to switch in combat is from Dengeki online.

    ただし注意点として、戦闘中の切り替えは不可。パーティ編成を見て、あらかじめ切り替えておく必要がありそうです。
    http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/056/1056760/
    Didn't mean to imply you were direct sources.
    It's much easier to link the compilations, honestly.
    It's stated clearly in both your docs that the information is second-hand.
    So if they want to delve to find the original sources, it's still a step in right direction.
    The Dengekionline is actually sourced in orangejediman's doc too, ableit through another doc...

    Thanks for the link though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
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    Went to bed and just woke up, I knew I read it somewhere, thanks for the link ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    Please don't use mine or Orange Jedi Mans docs as direct sources, we collected information and shouldn't be treated as a proper source like a proper interview from a real journalist should be. You should be asking or providing sources directly from the press.
    I know it's difficult to compile all this stuff to start with, but it would be extremely useful if y'all'd actually link where you're getting the info from in the google doc itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by SongJoohee View Post
    ただし注意点として、戦闘中の切り替えは不可。パーティ編成を見て、あらかじめ切り替えておく必要がありそうです。
    Can we get something better than google translate for this? Google is saying the second sentence is "It is likely to be necessary to switch in advance." If even your primary source is saying "probably," I'm not gonna take it as solid. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    I know it's difficult to compile all this stuff to start with, but it would be extremely useful if y'all'd actually link where you're getting the info from in the google doc itself.



    Can we get something better than google translate for this? Google is saying the second sentence is "It is likely to be necessary to switch in advance." If even your primary source is saying "probably," I'm not gonna take it as solid. >_>
    戦闘中の切り替えは不可。

    is the only thing you need. There is no probably about it. It's a solid you can't combat switch.

    I mention this at the top of my document, but there would be far too many things to link, everything in my doc is taken from PLLs, PLL Translations, Press Interviews, Translations of Press Interviews or Game Trailers. For things taken from community, non-profressional translations I only take things from people who have been shown to provide accurate translations in the past, such as Slycer on bluegartr or cygneakrou. Let alone to mention to link everything I would have to retrace all my steps. That document was made for my own personal use starting from about 8 weeks before it was made public and adding to it through out that time, I don't need to provide sources for myself, so I never listed any.
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    It's sad, but change stances during battle would be too OP, too much versality

    Does somebody know if the AST shields can staks with SCH ones?
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    Ah there was a mistake in that article, it's been corrected to read thaumaturge and conjurer for cross class now, so we will have Swiftcast after all.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/376009-Fabulous-Flying-Unicorn%21

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    I'm probably the only one that is put off by the dud card... if it would have been a DPS I'd agree but not on a healer. Granted it certainly fits the "oracle" part but after feeling SE's RNG... I'll better stay FAR away from that class with that dud card as I'll be permanently be causing wipes lol.

    I don't really mind the stance being outside battle only - it fits the job theme well even though a 5min cooldown to switch stances once or twice a raid would be cool..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    I'm probably the only one that is put off by the dud card... if it would have been a DPS I'd agree but not on a healer. Granted it certainly fits the "oracle" part but after feeling SE's RNG... I'll better stay FAR away from that class with that dud card as I'll be permanently be causing wipes lol.

    I don't really mind the stance being outside battle only - it fits the job theme well even though a 5min cooldown to switch stances once or twice a raid would be cool..
    The "dud" card at this point is almost certainly a mistranslation in the client they were playing:

    1) It was previously mentioned (in a dev post) that an Astrologian card would reduce damage taken

    2) The buff from the "dud" card is applied on the Buff side of the status effects bar.

    3) Eytomology for "Bole" - the dud card - is much more defensive (see here)
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