Please be more understanding of your fellow player

[Sciwolf]

The other day, I got into a CT run with lots of new blood. We wiped once and some people immediately started rage quitting and blaming the new guys. Funny part is that soon as they left and we got our immediate replacements, the run went smooth as butter.

[KaijinRhada]

I try to offer advice to people when asked, and always have in past games, even during my hardcore phase. It's just in me to be courteous, because it's who I am and I would also like people to be polite with me. I believe in giving people chances to learn things and understand that every one learns differently and at a different pace (just like in real life). I do however test the waters with them first and try to predict how they would handle constructive criticism. Even with being polite, I accept that some people just don't want to hear it, so I don't pursue. A lot of the time, I have found people to be reasonably receptive of it. There were some... interesting situations where they were not though, but I don't let that sour me and I move on.

As far as new people go, if I see some one is new I do ask "who is new to this?" and go from there. If they don't say anything, then neither do I. While it's a bit of a facepalm moment to admit their novice status after problems occur, I would say this is because of the fact that they are afraid of letting people know they are new. Not accounting for language barriers, be it for reasons of pride, ridicule/being chewed out, or vets leaving the group, not telling people they may need assistance in an instance is a problem in itself. Big thing with how I see it is that people can only help if you show a willingness to learn. That being said, I at least try to act like a decent person to others.

Snip.

Ha, I got that once with a trial, SoF if I recall. It was quite the laugh amongst us who stayed after downing it in a couple of tries once we got someone new (one who had already cleared it and a fresh player to the trial).

[dughug]

All in all the mmo community represents the real world. Lots of douche bags irl, now lots of douche bags in online content. It's just plain toxic now. Can't be elite irl, well I can be elite in videogames and it will mean something. Not really.

[WeaverOfFate]

Its sad realy. But luckly it ain't so bad here as in other MMO's i find most people here more friendly and social then in any other MMO i have been or maybe i just have been lucky with parties untill one point.

[Chessala]

I don't mind people being new, I'vemade hundreds of LoA runs explaining people what to do when I was farming for my robe.

However, what I can't stand is someone being new and/or not knowing the fight well and pretending they know it all. I was in Ifrit Ex yesterday and after the first wipe asked the SCH if he knew what to do in regards to Searing Wind. Reply was "Don't worry about me." I got suspicious but let it slide, and he kept standing in the middle. So I explained it, he said he got it and....did the same thing again.

I don't even expect people to watch guides though for some content like Ex primals and Coils, they REALLY should. In either case, as long as people try to learn and listen, all is good for me.

Unfortunately, most of the time, especially if people are returning players, they are are entitled jerks that think they know it all and feel offended when you try to explain them something. US/UK people especially should remember one thing: Continenal EU people are direct and don't beat around the bush. If you make a mistake, they will tell you to the face. Don't take it as an offense. LEARN! People these days really need to learn to accept criticism without getting offended because their name was used in a sentence.

Yesterday, a friend and I tried T9 via DF. We met a player from our server that we had met in T5 before. My friend said:" Hi xxxx, haven't seen you since T5!". Result? Insults because she supposedly implied he didn't know the strategy......community is being sad if people fire insults because someone greets them.

[ShaneDawn]

All in all the mmo community represents the real world. Lots of douche bags irl, now lots of douche bags in online content. It's just plain toxic now. Can't be elite irl, well I can be elite in videogames and it will mean something. Not really.

In a sense the game represents irl values pretty well, but this is just plain bias. Who are the elite of real life? How does wanting to do the stuff properly in the game make you a loser in real life? Judging people irl by their game behavior is nothing but baseless conjecture. If anything, successful people tend to be successful all-around while lazy people will remain lazy.

Being an elite in the game does not make you an "elite" irl. Neither are all "elites" irl casuals in the game.

There will be good people and there will be bad people. Just learn to find the good ones and stick with them.

[Dererk]

I wouldn't say that there has been an increase. People have been terrible to each other, continued being terrible to each other, and will still be terrible to each other. No matter if it's the open hostility, the use of profanity, or, my favorite, the passive anger of a dot dot dot (...) to let us all know how insufferable you are, it's been a steady thing since the launch of the game.

Wait that's what the ... Means? Never knew thought it was just silence.

[Naliee]

I don't mind people being new,

However, what I can't stand is someone being new and/or not knowing the fight well and pretending they know it all.

This so much... I've been around enough with those people.

And I don't understand why people still seem to expect that you can win stuff on DF? Yes, some stuff you can do with random pt, but then I would expect that people have done their research. What pisses me off on DF is the ragequitters that expect to 1 shot stuff on DF and when all goes to sh*t, they quit and if lucky enough you get flamed too.

PF is totally another story. If I put up a farm pt, I expect it to be FARM party.

[Vaer]

I think some of the problem is that SE keeps making people that have been playing since the beginning grind the same old content over and over. Especially the dungeons that were in expert roulette and later thrown into High Roulette. People end up getting sick of doing it so many times that it leads to people becoming grumpy if they can't get it done and get out of there ASAP.

But, queue times would be forever without the older players queueing into it with the players who need it so you end up with a dilemma.

The game itself doesn't prepare you for the harder content very well, since you can clear even expert dungeons easily even if one or more players are lacking. The difficulty spike from Experts/CT/ST/WoD to the higher end content is pretty steep.

[Lollie]

Just gonna leave this here since sometimes brevity is misconstrued as being hostile. These are all phrases said to be humorous and informative not necesarilly mean in intent but are commonly taken that way by newer people.
Just dont die = we got this, all you have to do is watch what we are doing and learn aka prioratize learning mechanics through example
Dont f*** up = you can wipe the run if you don't handle something properly, if you dont know what to do ask (and dont join a party listed as farm)
Gitgud = we arnt here to babysit you, you are messing up the basics of your job (ok this one can be a little mea spirited)
Dodge s*** = it doesnt matter where you go just dont stand in stuff
Wall it = we dont need you and you are probably never going to so this fight againt, its better you were out of the equasion for 1-2 attempts then not doing something properly for the next 10-20
"Silence" = i expect everyone to be able to perform above minimin clear level, and if you dont i will flip my lid