The Ninja Superthread

[silentwindfr]

and i will repeat something i had said before:
if positional was means to be there from the start, the ninja will have some. other point what the point to have all the jobs have the same way to play?
finally, you don't change the direction of a jobs (because that what do the positional) 6+ month later it release. it's something that need an expansion for be done, it was possible to do it while the 2.5.

and finally, i don't think that a melee must have a positional for be considerate as a melee. not every ranged have casting time, machinist don't seems have casting time, bard is not forced to have casting time.

finally, the pitifull escuse to say that the jobs don't deserve new mechanic from an expansion because it did come out 6+ month ago is bad in soo many way... an expansion is here for expand our game, meaning the gameplay, the mechanic, the world and the jobs possibility! it's worst in the case of the ninja, because it means when they did release it 6+ month ago, they didn't think at any new mechanic that can be interesting to be added with the expansion! it was possible to plan this before hand... here all we can see it's they have no idea of what they can do or add to our jobs.... instead they did give us positional to a job not means to have it nor adapted for it nor designed for it!

sorry, i can't find any decent escuse for pardon them inability to listen to our need or for bring new mechanic or simply develop our mechanic. because nothing we have seen so far go into this sense. for me, if we had this while a patch it will have been same! but here we are talking of an expansion! not a patch! for the godsake! we have the right and duty to be angry for the treatment that our jobs did receive! an expansion is not a patch!

I dont remember seeing this asked here yet but,

So out of curiosity have they said if the positional will just do extra damage compared to now or will missing the positional will result in less damage then the skills currently have.

As an example Dancing edge currently has 260, so will it keep the 260 base with a bonus for positional, or will the base be like 200 (random number) and the bonus make it like 300 (also random number).

If the former is true then I don't real see a problem with adding the positionals, because you can keep your current rotation while slowly adding in the new mechanics with no loss in DPS.

All in all I will wait to judge the play style until I get the chance to use it but I agree that more information would be helpful.

all they have said it we gonna need to pay attention because our skill will get positional it's normal to think that they will add a boost of potency, in worst case, we will see our dps reduce if we don't respect the positional. for make simple our dps will not evolve from this...

[Dextro]

and i will repeat something i had said before:
if positional was means to be there from the start, the ninja will have some.

NIN had a flank positional on Dancing Edge on release iirc, it was pulled last minute by the dev team but the information was still on the tooltip until a few maintenances later.
Until it became common knowledge that Dancing Edge in fact -didn't- require a positional, lots of people were pulling it off just fine and not once did I see a single complaint about it.

Let's imagine they add positionals to 2 of our moves - with TA it makes a total of 3.
- If both are Flank then we remain at the Flank and simply move to the Rear for TA like we always do....
- If 1 is Flank and 1 is Rear, then we simply stay at the rear and move to the Flank for 1 single skill...
Surely you can pull this off with your already enhanced movement, right? It's really time to stop exaggerating how bad this is...

[silentwindfr]

NIN had a flank positional on Dancing Edge on release iirc, it was pulled last minute by the dev team but the information was still on the tooltip until a few maintenances later.
Until it became common knowledge that Dancing Edge in fact -didn't- require a positional, lots of people were pulling it off just fine and not once did I see a single complaint about it.

no it was an error of translation only in the english version, the french version from day 1 had no positional outside TA and SA.

and i doubt they only add 1-2 skill, the fact they have said several is quite clear.