Why punish players who just want to play DoL DoH?

[Bamadeus]

I don't see how finishing the story in order to unlock new content comes as a surprise to people, seeing as the story and combat segments therein have acted as gates for content since the very start of 2.0.

I understand that if people want to just craft or gather it'd be a pain to then have to do a bunch of quests and fights, but you can't really say you never saw this coming?

[Makado]

Look at it this way, while you may want to just craft and gather having a battle class progressed in leveling and story can help you gather some materials from enemies or whatever that you might not have access to from only crafting and gathering. Also, perhaps someday you might possibly come across a system that they add that you may like which is battle related. Just some things to think about, especially the "extension" of gathering through "farming" enemies.

[Whiteroom]

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While I agree with including crafters in end game gear, it is hardly a "think of the children argument" as you put it. You may think the issues is smaller than I do, being on balmung, where I understand there is much less spam than I see on Jenova. I get almost a constant flow of spam and rmt friend requests.

I would prefer any end game crafting for go the MB and be about getting an untradeable drop and requesting a craft, or doing it yourself, but thats another thread entirely.

But I don't believe for a second that they should dedicate the resources to make some kind of a separate storyline for people who "only craft" as that number cant, realistically, be more than one in every few thousand players. I feel that there is not value on a business or overall enjoyment of the player base for the work it would take. Maybe if there was a much bigger portion of the player base who did it, but before this thread, I had never heard of anyone who played solely to craft. Maybe people who even did a majority of crafting, but no one who wanted to ignore every other aspect of the game for it.

[Evangela]

I hope they'll make crafting less important in the future. It's not important now but it still can make shitload of money, money they don't deserve because all they do is sitting in the town and play stupid minigame called crafting.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I hope they'll make crafting less important in the future. It's not important now but it still can make shitload of money, money they don't deserve because all they do is sitting in the town and play stupid minigame called crafting.

I detect jealousy. Besides, crafting isn't the only easy way to make gil, you know.

[Souljacker]

I don't see how finishing the story in order to unlock new content comes as a surprise to people, seeing as the story and combat segments therein have acted as gates for content since the very start of 2.0.

I understand that if people want to just craft or gather it'd be a pain to then have to do a bunch of quests and fights, but you can't really say you never saw this coming?

It's because many of us have played other mmos that are successful and understand the formula. Personally I think the gating is going to be one of the biggest mistakes SE could make if they want a really popular and large mmo. An expansion is always an opportunity to get new players interested in the game, but the problem is that they will be interested in ISHGARD, not the thousand or so quests that came before it. Gating content like this is going to make that new player quit before even getting through the first month because they won't be able to play with their friends. I'm not sure what SE's thought process is behind this, but I sure hope that they make it very clear on the packaging that you will have had to complete all earlier content in addition to being level capped before you can play Heavensward or they are going to have a lot of unhappy customers that otherwise might have become forever players.

I don't really know of any other game that does this.

[Fyce]

I detect jealousy. Besides, crafting isn't the only easy way to make gil, you know.

Your jealousy detector is working, but your sarcasm one seems to be broken.

[Vinta]

I wasn't here then, what happened?

A weaver could stun Hellfire, that's what happened.

Edit: reference video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v-GMge_6sc

[Malevicton]

A weaver could stun Hellfire, that's what happened.

"Dear Gods! Xande has opened a portal to the World of Darkness! Someone quickly gather the Warriors of... wait, where did it go?"

"Sewed the portal shut with a crit-quality cross stitch. Those bosses aren't getting anywhere until the seam starts to wear down."

"..."

Yeah I could see potential problems

[Felis]

What I don't understand is, why can't we get access to the expansion areas and jobs and anything else that doesn't relate to the main story...I mean you should be able to roam around anywhere but just not be able to do the main story and its related quests. Think about when you first started 1.0 or even ARR, you were able to go anywhere and do anything, why shouldn't it be possible with HW.

The glacier Snowcloak is blocking the way to western highlands and only in the main story part around Iceheart tunnels were found through the glacier.