I feel a disturbance in the air...

[Mahri]

WoW players are mad because one of the lead devs said not only are they not ever going to allow flight in the current expansion, but it might stay gone forever, when tons of people were looking forward to having it as an option again to get around and free-form explore after the main questing was done.

Compare to FFXIV, which is about to have an expansion that not only introduces flight, but some gigantic zones designed entirely around it, so that it actually feels like an organic continuation of the journey and not just a quicker way to get around.

[SDaemon]

WoW players are mad because one of the lead devs said not only are they not ever going to allow flight in the current expansion, but it might stay gone forever, when tons of people were looking forward to having it as an option again to get around and free-form explore after the main questing was done.

Compare to FFXIV, which is about to have an expansion that not only introduces flight, but some gigantic zones designed entirely around it, so that it actually feels like an organic continuation of the journey and not just a quicker way to get around.

Flight in only the new HWs areas though. And personally if the next expansion after HW doesn't have flight in the new areas there I wouldn't mind at all.

[Mikedizzy]

We welcomed all players as long as they are not jerks...LOL...and don't extend out que times too long....

[Barimu]

Ugh that one post comparing content of FFXIV and WoW made me cringe. Seems people care more about quantity than quality. Sure FFXIV may get "twice as much content than WoW" but that content is made obsolete so quick its ridiculous.

[h0tNstilettos]

Ugh that one post comparing content of FFXIV and WoW made me cringe. Seems people care more about quantity than quality. Sure FFXIV may get "twice as much content than WoW" but that content is made obsolete so quick its ridiculous.

Not sure which FFXIV you're playing. FFXIV's content is both high quality and provides quantity. On top of this SE keeps most content relevant unlike most MMOs, so how in the world did you come up with content becoming obsolete? Lol.

[Mahri]

Flight in only the new HWs areas though. And personally if the next expansion after HW doesn't have flight in the new areas there I wouldn't mind at all.

I feel very much the same way. HW looks designed for flight. Compare the broken-up flat planes in WoW, even post-flight. Most egregiously, Deepholm from Cataclysm -- they could've had a crazy design going on with what's basically the interior of a colossal geode, but instead it's just a series of terraces. There's probably some coding logistics that got in the way, but if HW improves upon this, it'll actually be realizing flight's full potential.

And if we're grounded again for whatever's next? Unlikely given the introduction of airships, but there'll probably be some obvious, visible piece of design they'll show that explains it rather than going on and on about their ~~vision~~ of ground exploration.

[Felis]

reading thread title
thought about this ...

[Barimu]

Not sure which FFXIV you're playing. FFXIV's content is both high quality and provides quantity. On top of this SE keeps most content relevant unlike most MMOs, so how in the world did you come up with content becoming obsolete? Lol.

Besides Coil nothing is relevant really. CT raids are made obsolete if you actually do coil, primals are useless besides a mount or glamour. That's about it.

[SDaemon]

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If they do a sea based expansion (just as an example) I don't see why they would have flight as an open world mechanic in those areas. If the new areas in the expansion after HW doesn't need flight or fit with the idea of flight, I have no issue with flight being removed for those areas.

At the same time though with how HW looks and feels, flight seems like an integral part of the atmosphere and dynamics of the expansion.

Besides Coil nothing is relevant really. CT raids are made obsolete if you actually do coil, primals are useless besides a mount or glamour. That's about it.

Perhaps once Coil's lockout is unlocked and you are capable of reliably farming the gear, then the gear offered in CT raids loses some value. However, there are still plenty of players who still run CT both for the gear and the weekly. Even older level cap dungeons still have relevancy w/ relic weapons, glamours, gearing, roulette etc.

[Mahri]

If they do a sea based expansion (just as an example) I don't see why they would have flight as an open world mechanic in those areas. If the new areas in the expansion after HW doesn't need flight or fit with the idea of flight, I have no issue with flight being removed for those areas.

At the same time though with how HW looks and feels, flight seems like an integral part of the atmosphere and dynamics of the expansion.

I feel a bit like the whole "sky or sea based" thing the devs talked about was a joke, but at the same time, oh my god, the artists could do WONDROUS things with uncharted islands, dynamic weather, and even undersea zones. I LOVED WoW's Vashj'ir, though I know feelings about it were mixed...it had one of the most extraordinary atmospheres of any areas in any game I've ever played.