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  1. #11
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    Mugiawara's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Me too.

    There's something in the Force I've never sensed before. It exists nowhere and everywhere at once. Writhing. Growing.
    Are you talking about Star Wars?
    Is OP talking about WoW?
    IS IT REALLY TACO FRIDAY NIGHT!?
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Edit: You know, it's actually kind of funny, i meandered over to the WoW forums, like i often do, and there's a thread full of people saying to stay away from FFXIV, because they don't want this game tainted by a bunch of angry wow players.
    Yeah, because of the huge influx of players coming from WoW to here. I think whoever posted that thread is giving a bad impression of the FFXIV community. I certainly wouldn't want to tell WoW players not to come here. As for the percentages I mentioned of amount of WoW players that prefer FFXIV over those that dislike it, I actually count the positive posts vs negative on various sites as I tend to keep up with how popular or unpopular various MMOs are. So it's all accurate. I'll post a few examples here, but I'm not going to go through months of bookmarks to post every thread and site where FFXIV is pulling out ahead of WoW and others in popularity. Here's just a few, and for the threads on WoW's official forums, be sure to view how many likes and dislikes each post has. The text above each link is the title of the thread:

    Dear Blizzard go play FFXIV
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...7646605?page=1

    WoW vs FFXIV (includes a poll and results, and thread is NOT posted in a FFXIV forum, it's a neutral MMO forum)
    http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/67805...eborn/71766098

    The amount of content: WoW vs FFXIV
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...2155982?page=1

    Anyone with a competitive WoW syndrome enjoying a new MMO? (see topic and replies, also posted on an unbiased MMORPG forum, aka non-game specific)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comm...me_enjoying_a/

    And to step away from WoW, what about GW2?

    Leaderboard: Heavensward vs Heart of Thorns (includes poll results and comments of which MMO players are looking forward to more out of the upcoming expansions. There were 3 major MMO expansions this year, and so far WoW's was a let down, and out of the 2 left these are the results of most looked forward to.)
    http://massivelyop.com/2015/03/11/le...art-of-thorns/

    I have tons more, including a thread on Steam somewhere comparing WoW's WoD to FFXIV where some WoW vets of 10 years have converted to FFXIV, but I'm not going through months of bookmarks. It should be noted that I am not shaming WoW. Though I prefer FFXIV, I know WoW is a great game. I'm just pointing out this shift I have noticed and why I thought the OP was hinting at it, and even more-so past 2 or 3 months. Out of all the MMOs players that leave WoW and other MMOs, more prefer/move to FFXIV than any other MMO out there. I'm speaking as someone that watches MMO trends, not a FFXIV fangirl. To be honest, FFXIV deserves its success, especially with how much Yoshi and them strive to please all types of MMO fans, like:

    -There's a huge wait between content in most MMOs and not enough to do. (Yoshi and team release BIG content patches every 3 months, and expansion size same as game at launch)
    -Primal mounts should play their respective themes while mounted. (done)
    -Zones are too small and confined in ARR and have no dangerous areas. I'm going back to WoW. (Heavensward zones are 2 to 5 times larger and have numerous dangerous areas.)
    -There's a lack of voice acting in ARR and voices on any bosses. I'm going back to WoW. (Heavensward will have more voice acting, and even one of the primals is voice acted.)

    NOTE: I do not want to turn this into a WoW vs FFXIV thread. Both are great games in their own way. I was just reporting trends and why I thought OP was referencing that.
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    Last edited by h0tNstilettos; 05-23-2015 at 02:20 PM.

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiawara View Post
    Are you talking about Star Wars?
    Is OP talking about WoW?
    IS IT REALLY TACO FRIDAY NIGHT!?
    I think I sense this "growth" because I'm tied to it somehow... Maybe by association to Darth Arkous. I think... I think the Empire is in terrible danger.
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  4. #14
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    As someone who's played WoW on-and-off ever since its first expansion, I think I can say that FFXIV: ARR avoided a lot of the pitfalls that WoW stumbled into early on. I still think FFXIV could use some more work, such as having some sort of "Just for Fun" non-combat class like WoW's Archaeologist, and I also kinda hope they add something to make Crafting classes a bit more relevant for end-game progression (In WoW, almost every crafting class had some sort of enhancement they could put on their own gear, with the only exception being Alchemist because they buffed any potions they drank, which were already more useful than in FFXIV).

    However, no matter what complaints I might have about the game, they're fairly small, and tempered by the knowledge that the game is still fairly young and has plenty of room for growth. That includes my own complaints with the Housing situation and Hunts.
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  5. #15
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    Having played WoW for 9.5 years doing hardcore raiding for a good part of it, I can say that, for me at least, one of the things working against WoW is time and nostalgia. I've rolled with the changed through the years, but my liking for the game stopped with Cata, with Firelands being the ONLY thing I liked about the expansion as a raider. Then along came WoD, more story, more lore for draenei (honestly I am dead tired of orcs), more engaging world, but that potential was stunted by garrisons. Garrisons could have been good, but there's so much micromanaging there with content linked to it, it became your own personal capitol city. Crafting, for whatever reason, has been made rather a pain in the ass across the board in comparison to before, and then they simplified classes. In my eyes, very disappointing, but there are still bits I liked, just that it wasn't enough to keep me playing.

    For all of the nostalgia WoD brings back, nearly a decade of play can make the same stuff gets old, and some changes still rub you the wrong way. All in all, you get worn down. Kudos to no flying though, I actually liked that.

    Enough ranting from me though, more to the point, I'm not saying WoW was bad to me. I'll always remember my time there fondly (and I haven't completely written off going back for fun), but FFXIV is a breath of fresh air. There are things that still irk me about this game, but it's early and has potential to grow.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar View Post
    Snip.
    Also agree with this.
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  6. #16
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    I too sense a disturbance in the force. I must meditate on this.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Able View Post
    I too sense a disturbance in the Force. I must meditate on this.
    Fixed. You forgot to capitalize the F in Force.

    p.s die jedi scum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    p.s die jedi scum
    There is no death, there is the Force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Yeah, the crap has hit the fan over there.

    Time for my own ambiguous reference.

    The ice stone has melted!

    (ain't none of you gonna get that reference)
    Oh my god I don't even remember when was that, I just remember the spam xD
    Did you know that the ice stone has melted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    Oh my god I don't even remember when was that, I just remember the spam xD
    Did you know that the ice stone has melted?
    It was something to do with a quest item in northrend bugging out and sending an event messege out to the world.
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