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  1. #11
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    If I see a tank who isn't in Shield or Defiance, or if I see a white mage spamming cure 2 in Clerics, I'll let them know in a very straight, non-condescending way. If they take offense to that, then it's because they're embarrassed or insecure, which neither is my issue. Constructive criticism > negative feedback.
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  2. #12
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    NaoKith's Avatar
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    Dagun Kha
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    A problem arises when you have two players with the same name being matched together. Who gets the /tell? o_0
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    /tell Adam Fylrmyn (Behemoth)
    /tell Adam Fylrmyn (Cactuar)
    This is the oversight that I was hoping someone would point out, it seems strange that this wasn't an inclusion and this reason explains the difficulty in implementation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    ...Or you could just take the advice and switch to shield oath or not stand in AoEs?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy
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  3. #13
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    Vann Wolfrun
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    Dark Knight Lv 55
    If someone does die or causes a wipe, while YOU don't want to cause them any further "embarrassment" the damage would have already been done. If a player falls in the arena against Titan, there is no 2-ways to hide it. Also why would you want to hide the conversation?

    If someone dies and gets 3-7 different /tells, it's gonna confuse the *%# outta of the person. If one of the people advising the person that died gave incorrect advise, then no one in the group could chime in.

    This isn't down to SE, but up to the player's responsibility and mentality. If someone is gonna flip at someone for not knowing a mechanic and not bother explaining it, then that someone needs a good look at themselves. Likewise if the new player doesn't ask for help and someone tells them what to do when they die, then they just need to buck up and do the dungeon/boss.

    Of course, I'm up for /tell being available in dungeons/raids, but don't think that by patching that in the game it would make players think or feel any better.
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  4. #14
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    Soube Miseux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaoKith View Post
    (Protip : Analogies can also be used in responses!)
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  5. #15
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Sorry but I cant agree to this...

    Certainly would be good to be able to chat with friends underwater by other medium than FC chat, but I can totally see the negative ways this can lead to.

    A person more focused on the chatbox than on the Duty at hand will cause a lot of problems, FC chat is already distracting enough that I've seen players stop moving just to keep up the chat there...

    Adding Tells to that will only worse things out as I see it :/
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  6. #16
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    I think the current system works. But players just need to be diplomatic about it. Don't just insult someone when they goof up. And likely they won't get defensive. On the flipside.. if someone is correcting you, and being respectful about it, don't get defiant with them. Talk it out.

    This is a player-social issue. Something -WE- have to fix. We can't run to the dev everytime someone acts like a jerk and expect them to magic-code in a fix for it. It doesn't work like that. Gear they can adjust, NPCs they can adjust, content they can adjust. People's attitude? Only we can adjust that.

    Imagine if everyone stopped being a jerk to one another. Boom the system runs smoothly. There's ways we can enforce that too. Linkshells and FCs and let the jerks queue with each other in the DF and watch them never get past Titan Hardmode.
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  7. #17
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Just tell them nicely. If they don't have a thick enough skin to take constructive criticism in a calm manner, they shouldn't be in a social situation.
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  8. #18
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Monk Lv 90
    I ran into a lot of Tanks and Monks that forgot to use Oath and Fist Stance.so i simply said in chat :
    "Oath"
    "Fist"
    and they'll use them in few seconds later.some of them even say thanks to me for reminding them.

    I won't bother tell NIN though since i can't remeber those 2 skill name.Scarlet's Kiss and Wasp's Whisper ? whatever ...
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  9. #19
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    /tell lets vote kick that dude before we get to boss room
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  10. #20
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    Koala Shibito
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    Sargatanas
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kahnom View Post
    I ran into a lot of Tanks and Monks that forgot to use Oath and Fist Stance.so i simply said in chat :
    "Oath"
    "Fist"
    and they'll use them in few seconds later.some of them even say thanks to me for reminding them.

    I won't bother tell NIN though since i can't remeber those 2 skill name.Scarlet's Kiss and Wasp's Whisper ? whatever ...
    Haha you can just say "venom"

    They're names are Kiss of the Wasp and Kiss of the Viper, but they're both venom :P
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