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  1. #21
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    The only problem with summoner at this point is that everyone has a personal problem or ascetic problem with summoner. Everyone can't have their own personal version of the class.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  2. #22
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    AldricBranchais's Avatar
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    Character
    Alis Cefr
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Malevicton View Post
    The only problem with summoner at this point is that everyone has a personal problem or ascetic problem with summoner. Everyone can't have their own personal version of the class.
    People like to whine about little things. Gave 'em Akh Morgan Freeman, and possibly some form of Mega-Flare and they still whine.
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    Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference.

  3. #23
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    ChaozK's Avatar
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Bahamut casts megaflare, jerk!

    #akhmorngate2015 #megaflare #neverforget

    Akh morn can't melt megaflare beams.
    If i had to guess i would say mega/giga/terraflare might be SMNs new LB.
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  4. #24
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    If i had to guess i would say mega/giga/terraflare might be SMNs new LB.
    Of the LB will differ depending on which Pet Skin you have out :v
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  5. #25
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    The key issues for me with summoner are as follows:
    Lack of Single Target and AoE pets (Boss and trash mobs).
    Lack of burst damage for boss encounters like Tam Tara HM corpse grooms (just needed another 300 potency to add to the mix).
    Remove stuns and silence from pets. Those who remember Ifrit HM and Chimera back in the day knows exactly what I mean here.
    Give Titan a provoke so he could be a true emergency tank.

    Does 3.0 fix any of these issue for me? Maybe one and that's a big maybe.
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  6. #26
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    Galand's Avatar
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    Character
    Rachel Alucard
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    The key issues for me with summoner are as follows:
    Lack of Single Target and AoE pets (Boss and trash mobs).
    Lack of burst damage for boss encounters like Tam Tara HM corpse grooms (just needed another 300 potency to add to the mix).
    Remove stuns and silence from pets. Those who remember Ifrit HM and Chimera back in the day knows exactly what I mean here.
    Give Titan a provoke so he could be a true emergency tank.

    Does 3.0 fix any of these issue for me? Maybe one and that's a big maybe.
    But Dyvid who needs all that when we have Akh Morn? Iam going to strip down to no gear and get rid of my egis, apparently Ahk Morn and a spell rename is all this class needs to be good.
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    Cast in the name of god, ye not guilty

  7. #27
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    ManaKing's Avatar
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    Character
    Dark Lich
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    The key issues for me with summoner are as follows:
    Lack of Single Target and AoE pets (Boss and trash mobs).
    Lack of burst damage for boss encounters like Tam Tara HM corpse grooms (just needed another 300 potency to add to the mix).
    Remove stuns and silence from pets. Those who remember Ifrit HM and Chimera back in the day knows exactly what I mean here.
    Give Titan a provoke so he could be a true emergency tank.

    Does 3.0 fix any of these issue for me? Maybe one and that's a big maybe.
    Provoke on Titan would be sweet and I don't personally care about CC on pets because Ifrit's Stun is triggered for damage, not the stun. But that being said, neither are going to bar SMN from end game content.

    I assume 'Lack of Single Target and AoE pets (Boss and trash mobs). ' is something like we have Garuda and Ifrit and you'd think Ifrit would be good for single target and Garuda would be better for AOE (which they kind of are but not with this ideology in place). Looks like they are putting that on the SMN and not the pets.

    Lack of burst damage for boss encounters like Tam Tara HM corpse grooms (just needed another 300 potency to add to the mix). > We'll see how much burst they give us. I understand that some adds are difficult for SMN to burst down because of the time it takes for them to do damage effectively, but that is honestly on the dev team to not make content that you have to kill in less than 8 seconds with no possible setup for SMN. The same thing happened with Haukke Manor Hard with the double succubus adds. It wasn't the SMN's fault, it was a fight that was rigged against them if your tank didn't cater towards SMN. However, it's not like SMN wasn't good in T5 for taking care of Conflags. They just need setup. Tri-Disaster may alleviate by providing SMNs that setup but it also might not.
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