The whole Summoner "has been re-worked" is sad

[Galand]

Rarely. Smartly place the Egi in the correct place and they won't take too much damage. Sustain for unavoidable AoEs. Excuses, excuses.

Yes "excuses", let me put my dunce cap on.

Oh wait, terrible game design where I have constantly micro manage my suicidal pet at all times is engaging gameplay! How could I possibly want more as a summoner! Oh wait iam getting a bahamaut face and a beam of light! WE HAVE IT ALL FOLKS

BEST JOB EVER, I can see it now, people must be lining up to re-roll

[Galand]

https://youtu.be/Fbmd4eRNwnE?t=11m7s

Those who know about Akh Morn most likely has either beaten T13, are super close to beating it, or plan on doing so at some point. Seriously after Teraflare once I saw this move come out I was hype, I was ready, I could feel the win on my tongue.....and then we wiped soon after and the DF party disbanded lol. (Moving on lol)Its one of the biggest, baddest primals' strongest move out there for you to now use.

Call me silly but yeah I'm hyped lol

Yes, I can see it now! Its just sitting there on my hotbar at my disposal! Cant wait to be doing 999,999,999 and blasting away half the battlefield...oh wait I guess people have never played warcraft, this ability is called "moon fire" and is learned at level 10 for druids.

[AdamFyi]

Oh wait, terrible game design where I have constantly micro manage my suicidal pet at all times is engaging gameplay!

Bad design does not justify bad play. You call it a terrible game design because you're not using all the tools given to you and pushing blame onto the battle design instead of adapting and learning. You're just giving excuses to be lazy.

[Galand]

Bad design does not justify bad play. You call it a terrible game design because you're not using all the tools given to you and pushing blame onto the battle design instead of adapting and learning. You're just giving excuses to be lazy.

No you are being completely unreasonable on purpose. Go make a video of keeper of the lake where you are not spending half of your time using move and sustain to desperately keep your egi alive instead of trying to keep yourself alive and keeping your damage rotation up.

You are being lazy and making up excuses (see how easy that is?)

[TruebladeNuke]

wants more skills based around summons. gets skill based around biggest baddest summon still gets mad.

This. Right here. I agree with this quote. SMN's get the needed tweaks they need to be more viable as DPS units themselves AND get access to Bahamut's powers... and still people get mad?

[Natsuno]

I'm looking forward to the changes. I'll reserve judgement until I'm level 60 and had a good play around.

Problem with people (or maybe with this being a FF game) is that they're way too eager to pidgeon hole moves to a particular class/job just because that class/job in another game had it, and then jump up and down shouting 'we don't want'.

I haven't a clue what a blue mage skill set is, and to be quite honest, I don't really care (something about using beast skills, meh). Summoners will be able to use a portion of the power of Bahamut, and Ahk Morn stuff. That's good enough for me.

...or should I start my own 'we don't want no boomkin spellz' thread, because it looks sililar to the moonfire spell that exists in WoW? ;p

[AdamFyi]

Snip.

You want to keep your Egi alive, correct? Then make use of those two skills to keep it alive. Learn to (Sustain) and (Place). Stop being lazy.

[SirDiscoFrog]

Yes, I can see it now! Its just sitting there on my hotbar at my disposal! Cant wait to be doing 999,999,999 and blasting away half the battlefield...oh wait I guess people have never played warcraft, this ability is called "moon fire" and is learned at level 10 for druids.

Great! Too bad this is FFXIV, and in this game, Bahamut uses that move in the hardest raid in 2.## series. So yeah, Bahamut uses it, now you use it, hype. Theres more to it than just the effects/shiny, its the move's relationship with THIS game, the fact we get another bursty move and how it connects us even closer to one of the best primals in the game.
Whether or not a similar move is in another game is a poor excuse to write it off. You'd be bored of almost of every job ability. Nothing is now exciting because its all been done. wah.

This. Right here. I agree with this quote. SMN's get the needed tweaks they need to be more viable as DPS units themselves AND get access to Bahamut's powers... and still people get mad?

Seriously. Folk want Summoner to show more of a relationship with primals and BOOM Dreadwyrm Trance! AhkMorn!
And even with that and the promise of some system like egi-glamor, which then rules out any reason of X-Primal being usable, folk are still mad. Yall just don't like Summoner. Stop trying to break the job for those of us who actually play it. -____-

[SummonerSenah]

FROM THE DIGEST SUMMARY
"However, I’m sure many are wondering if they will have to continuethat looking at the same egi forever, but we are planning to add a system in the future that will allow you to change the appearance of your egis, including Carbuncle, but their stats will remain the same."

Egi glamour so most likely new egi appearances plus carbuncles!

"Continue looking at the same Egi forever. " Like I love how they just flat out are admitting here that they know that summoners end up using the same Egi all the time but instead of addressing that by adjusting how the Egis function, they just decide to let us glamour it. You don't see why some people are unhappy with this?

[Galand]

This. Right here. I agree with this quote. SMN's get the needed tweaks they need to be more viable as DPS units themselves AND get access to Bahamut's powers... and still people get mad?

Can you point out what tweaks exactly make my class more viable and able to do more damage? You mean to tell my mana issues are now fixed? My suicidal pet that wants to die or attack random enemies iam not attacking is covered? My sub par aoe dps is covered?

Lets see check list

Bahamut Ghost face - check
Druids Moonfire - check
Tri-disaster being renamed to Tri-Bind - check

Oh I must have been blind, this fixes everything, what do I know what Iam talking about.

Oh wait Scholars getting shell and they still whine! (see I can do that too)