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    I think the idea is to spend gl3 on a burst skill right before boss becomes invulnerable

    But they said mantra/meditation stacks are for burst?

    Im confused
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    I heard something about meditation can be used to recover TP like the stacks of it. Or probably buff up your damage.

    I hope that you can use it to extend the duration of your gl but hey I think that would probably be OP. It seems that our rotation didnt change that much....there are added stuff but hey! im excited for this
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    I think the idea is to spend gl3 on a burst skill right before boss becomes invulnerable

    But they said mantra/meditation stacks are for burst?

    Im confused
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireAbigail View Post
    I heard something about meditation can be used to recover TP like the stacks of it. Or probably buff up your damage.

    I hope that you can use it to extend the duration of your gl but hey I think that would probably be OP. It seems that our rotation didnt change that much....there are added stuff but hey! im excited for this
    They said that Meditation can be used either to burst DPS or to regen TP. Whether the ability that consumes GL3 to be a burst is also a Meditation skill remains to be seen. But basically, if you're going to lose GL3 anyway, no reason not to burst it. Alternately, if you're the only melee in the group, burst and then LB.
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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-Thread/page2


    The original concept for monk was to maintain Greased Lightning III, but instead of adding actions to aid in maintaining this effect, we added technical elements where you can utilize Greased Lightning and also made adjustments to eliminate the downtime during phases or mechanics of a boss where you can’t do anything.

    We’ll be adding a system known as Chakra. You’ll be able to gain up to 5 stacks of Chakra, and once reaching the maximum amount you’ll be able to execute a high damage weapon skill. Additionally, you’ll be able to use Chakra to restore TP to yourself. Furthermore, there will be an ability that will allow you to change your form and a weapon skill that consumes Greased Lightning.

    With all of these new elements, you’ll be able to spend your Greased Lightning right before a boss becomes invulnerable, progress through your forms while saving up Chakra until you can attack again, and then gain Greased Lightning again. With this, there will be no downtime.
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    I'm just curious about in what world a skill is going to be worth losing 27% damage buff and 15% attack speed. It's going to be massive in damage to warrant it, or getting back to GL3 without PB is going to be much shorter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    I'm just curious about in what world a skill is going to be worth losing 27% damage buff and 15% attack speed. It's going to be massive in damage to warrant it, or getting back to GL3 without PB is going to be much shorter.
    well it's for us to use when we are 100% sure we are gonna drop gl3 like there's absolute no way of keeping it up because we cant hit anything to keep it
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    It could be an ability you can use just before Phase Jumps etc when you're guaranteed to lose Stacks, a situational skill... So It could be like a 500 potency skill or something, maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    It could be an ability you can use just before Phase Jumps etc when you're guaranteed to lose Stacks, a situational skill... So It could be like a 500 potency skill or something, maybe.
    Yeah. They said as much, like, three times.
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    *sigh*

    I just wish we could have gotten at least some more information on this... BLM got such an in-depth view of how it's going to work, we just get some confusing stuff that is really hard to picture without seeing it.

    Reading the translations thread helped with understanding it a little more, but they said that you will be able to "execute a high damage weapon skill" when you have 5 stacks of Chakra... then on the additional attacks they mention another attack that consumes GL, so I'm not sure if that one uses or need any Chakra too, or... I don't know.

    They should have expanded on the "change stance" ability too, cause it doesn't tell us anything about how it will work, how often you can use it etc. Would be nice to be able to actually get the DK debuff on first rotation after losing GL stacks for example, which you would be able to do if you could change to the right stance before using it.

    Overall, even though I'm still left confused, I like the direction they're going with not just making it easier to hold onto GL stacks. I wanted them to make it "easier" to keep them during downtime, or make it easier to regain them, but this approach is actually better.

    Also, like have been mentioned, sacrificing your GL stacks would never be worth it, unless you would lose them right after anyways, which is the meaning of that attack. So it doesn't have to be strong enough to use when you have full up-time on the boss/enemy (would have to be a damn strong attack), it just have to do enough damage to keep up with the other melee DPS that doesn't suffer nearly as much during downtime.
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    The cool thing is that relative to what other classes got, Monk are getting several toys to play with.

    And, come on, besides the new Summoner skills, we got the coolest melee animations. I'm so excited!

    Also, the AF2 looks beautiful. It's so colorful and neat. It reminds me of the bard AF, which I love.
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