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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Ugh. Why? We already have, what, six? I don't understand why they think we need to waste more space on 3 new ones. Last I checked WHM was a Healer. lol
    In the stream I think they mentioned they were:
    Stone III, more damage?
    Some kind of AoE Aero
    Holy II deals AoE damage and heals?

    They're trying to "shift White Mage towards paladin more" - they actually said this. I can't really see how these spells are related to that. Aside from an AoE aero being similar to Circle of Scorn being an AoE DoT D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    In the stream I think they mentioned they were:
    Stone III, more damage?
    Some kind of AoE Aero
    Holy II deals AoE damage and heals?

    They're trying to "shift White Mage towards paladin more" - they actually said this. I can't really see how these spells are related to that. Aside from an AoE aero being similar to Circle of Scorn being an AoE DoT D:
    That's ridiculous. I want to be a healer... Not a.. Whatever they are trying to do. T_T
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    That's ridiculous. I want to be a healer... Not a.. Whatever they are trying to do. T_T
    Healing w/good AoE damage. They already are in some ways (Holy is already really damned good by itself) where now Holy 2 can be used for massive pulls it sounds like (dealing damage + healing once they are immune to the stun?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by spelley View Post
    Healing w/good AoE damage. They already are in some ways (Holy is already really damned good by itself) where now Holy 2 can be used for massive pulls it sounds like (dealing damage + healing once they are immune to the stun?).
    True. But if they are trying to make them "more like a Paladin..." I don't know. Also the heal on Holy II would be pretty weak if you are in CS. >>

    I'm just disappointed with all the new damage spells. xD We already do a lot of damage with Holy, Stone II, Aero, and Aero II.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    Healers are so god damn dramatic. "Here's all these cool new things!" THEY'VE KILLED THE HEALER GAME, RIP WHM AND SCH
    Of course. How do you think we deal with the stress of healing? xD j/k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    They're trying to "shift White Mage towards paladin more" - they actually said this. I can't really see how these spells are related to that. Aside from an AoE aero being similar to Circle of Scorn being an AoE DoT D:
    I'd imagine it's more in the sense that a Paladin is the 'purest' tank of the three tank Jobs, while White Mages will continue being the 'purest' healer of the trio and that the additions will accentuate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    I'd imagine it's more in the sense that a Paladin is the 'purest' tank of the three tank Jobs, while White Mages will continue being the 'purest' healer of the trio and that the additions will accentuate that.
    And additions would be adding another stone, an AoE DoT and an AoE spell that heals? Yoshi pls D:

    Although I'm quite happy with Asylum (I think they called it that), but even that is pending on how effective/practical it really is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    And additions would be adding another stone, an AoE DoT and an AoE spell that heals? Yoshi pls D:

    Although I'm quite happy with Asylum (I think they called it that), but even that is pending on how effective/practical it really is
    SE is pretty good about balance, though. PoM got buffed. loltridisaster is getting reworked in HW. If Asylum ends up being something even top end players don't use, I do think SE would address it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    Well, Asylum does sound cool, but I do hope it won't end up being a stationary Medica II. I feel that White Mages are kind of hard to add new healing spells to, considering how well we cover most situations with our current toolkit. :/
    Like sacred soil, it could be a pretty good "stack here people!" visual indicator as well as providing heals on top of that (and stacking for raid damage is a thing in many fights). Perhaps not essential but it sounds like a tool I want to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    SE is pretty good about balance, though. PoM got buffed. loltridisaster is getting reworked in HW. If Asylum ends up being something even top end players don't use, I do think SE would address it.
    They did bring up tri-disaster and Yoshi laughed at the fact it didn't live up to it's name. So they decided to change it's name to tri-bind (lol xD) and give them an ability that would actually do what tri-disaster was supposed to do: Be as menacing as it sounds(?)

    They also joked around a bit that if tri-disaster DID live up to it's name, it would have been too overpowered.
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