SE plz nerf zodiac quest ....

[Lillia]

I need my au ra and dark fix

Yeah, Au Ra...... I should go back to that benchmark and tweak mines. >_>;

[Twilite]

I think the OP has forgotten that she was once a new player herself..

[Alberel]

Some you'll get first try, some you won't. It generally evens out for everyone over a 16 dungeon run. It's part of the quest. They'll nerf it eventually, they've done so with each step of the process so far.

Unfortunately it doesn't actually even out for everybody eventually. There are some people that will simply never see a drop at all for hundreds of runs simply by nature of it being pure RNG. The RNG side of things in this game does need to be fixed as anyone that gets caught out as an extreme outlier in the odds is being very unfairly treated compared to the rest of the playerbase (they can put in 10x as much effort and see no reward at all).

[Tuathaa]

In my opinion no optional quest, dungeon, or raid should ever be nerfed.

[starLivitation]

I think the OP has forgotten that she was once a new player herself..

when i was a new player, everyone else was new as well. when i said in my other posts why shud we help new player i didnt mean it that way, so dont quote me on that, if u have actually read the post fullly you would understand that i love helping new players out, but the only issue/complain, is why are we forced to help new player to get our weapon done, why force it? why not let us decide also which new player to help, maybe i prefer helping someone in my server rather than the random duty finder person that i will never meet again.

I mention in my old posts , that helping new players is something i do on a daily basis, and it's really something i enjoy doing as well, i craft items for people i just met and show them which quests they need to unlock and what they shud be doing next. this is something i love doing. so please do not judge a whole post, based on a sentante u read without reading or understand the full picture.

[Twilite]

when i was a new player, everyone else was new as well. when i said in my other posts why shud we help new player i didnt mean it that way, so dont quote me on that, if u have actually read the post fullly you would understand that i love helping new players out, but the only issue/complain, is why are we forced to help new player to get our weapon done, why force it? why not let us decide also which new player to help, maybe i prefer helping someone in my server rather than the random duty finder person that i will never meet again.

I mention in my old posts , that helping new players is something i do on a daily basis, and it's really something i enjoy doing as well, i craft items for people i just met and show them which quests they need to unlock and what they shud be doing next. this is something i love doing. so please do not judge a whole post, based on a sentante u read without reading or understand the full picture.

You say you love helping others, but you're also trying to filter this desire.. Really.. Don't get me wrong, I get your point with that. You wanna help a new player who is CLEARLY making some kind of effort.

And btw, DF does sometimes select multiple people from the same server. I've experienced that on more than one occasion. Now I just gotta ask you, how else is any aspiring endgame raider straight out of 50, is supposed to be better gear/learn anything ?

[LaylaTsarra]

There are some people that will simply never see a drop at all for hundreds of runs

Exaggerate much? Hey how about thousands of runs... maybe that'll support your .00001 percent outlier hypothesis. Really it'll get nerfed at some point like everything else. The fact of the matter is dungeons runs do even out over the long haul. I've had a bit of experience with it so I know (I have 5 Zeta's). You're entitled to your view and I'm sure the developers have a pretty good idea of how well the relic runs are going. I see relics everywhere and that is pretty good evidence to me at least that the process is certainly doable for many.

Dungeon drop rates will be improved over time as well, I think that is something the community can count on.

[Kumabear76]

I think what many posters here may have missed is that the OP is complaining about the RNG of her SECOND zodiac. She already has one and, after 21 tries of one dungeon, is telling S/E to make it easier. But was it so bad when she did it all the first time? Couldn't have been too bad since she chose to do it all again.

As for RNG not being fair. Quite the contrary. RNG is the ultimate in fair. It's an equal playing field. No one gets a bonus. No one gets favoritism. It is pure mathematical probability. Those who complain about the fairness of RNG aren't really upset at the randomness, they're upset that they didn't win, and as such, want S/E to fix it so that they have a better chance of winning. they don't want fairness, they want guarantees.

If you don't win at RNG, I'm sorry, that's tough luck. Better luck next time. But don't change up a system just because you didn't get what you wanted, when you wanted it.

[Kyuuen]

Exaggerate much? Hey how about thousands of runs... maybe that'll support your .00001 percent outlier hypothesis. Really it'll get nerfed at some point like everything else. The fact of the matter is dungeons runs do even out over the long haul. I've had a bit of experience with it so I know. You're entitled to your view and I'm sure the developers have a pretty good idea of how well the relic runs are going. I see relics everywhere and that is pretty good evidence to me at least that the process is certainly doable for many.

Dungeon drop rates will be improved over time as well, I think that is something the community can count on.

I wouldn't say that's exaggerated at all. Just as there are people who've waltzed through and got their drops in one run, the opposite would also be true. Just because you don't see more people complaining about it, does not mean that they do not exist, some people don't use the forums.

[LaylaTsarra]

I wouldn't say that's exaggerated at all. Just as there are people who've waltzed through and got their drops in one run, the opposite would also be true. Just because you don't see more people complaining about it, does not mean that they do not exist, some people don't use the forums.

100's of runs isn't exaggerated? Oh really. Thank goodness most don't come here cause they would sure get a warped idea of reality when it comes to relic. My personal experience in world for myself and my FC mates is certainly not what is portrayed here as common place but then again that's my view, my experience and my opinion and everyone is entitled to one right even if they choose to exaggerate the facts.