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  1. #41
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    Nerf rng does not make it better. It's just how it is. I've been crafting and gathering and, well, you can get nothing from a 95% node 4 consecutive times. It's just how it is. Sometimes people have horrid luck.

    Change it might be a better idea. I personally like the book/light/alex idea that you can actually see how far you've progressed. And that gives me faith. And also the courage to keep grinding.
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    Life becomes death becomes new life. As it should be.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Yes, you feel like you've beaten the random roll of dice. Yay?

    I would prefer to feel like I earned it through payment for effort. That's why I like systems where running content = some type of currency reward = purchase what you want with it.
    Truthfully the RNG is a very small portion of that quest. The quest entails 4 items that are bought with 100K gil, each from NPC vendor. 8 items that are from each of the crafting classes. 16 items from dungeons (RNG). 4 items bought with Grand Company Seals. 4 Items that are bought using Soldiery.

    Less than half of the items needed are RNG. But that didn't stop ANY of the complaining. It has nothing to do with RNG and everything to do with ppl not wanting to run dungeons more than once or twice for their drop.
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    Last edited by Whocareswhatmynameis; 05-21-2015 at 06:47 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Truthfully the RNG is a very small portion of that quest..
    may i use this as my signature
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by RylaiBluecrow View Post
    Nerf rng does not make it better. It's just how it is. I've been crafting and gathering and, well, you can get nothing from a 95% node 4 consecutive times. It's just how it is. Sometimes people have horrid luck.

    Change it might be a better idea. I personally like the book/light/alex idea that you can actually see how far you've progressed. And that gives me faith. And also the courage to keep grinding.
    to compare crafting rng to this? no comparasion.. crafting RNG can often be on ur side than not, i have done so many stuff hq with 24% hq chance, as well as getting tons of trick of the trade to the point its over kill. i have done 3 lucids , and stoped cause i got boared , as well as all 4 stars. crafting is so easy compared to the RNG of zodiac, it's true hell ....

    i am done for today , my 21 runs or lost city amdapor are all without items....

    i still remember this guy i met who , got it today, in 1 attempt, and he said he is moving on to his last item now.

    why does it have to be so unfair? why SE!!

    and others are seemly happy they done theirs and happpy about this RNG because they got some sort of uniqe weapon, that the others are blocked from getting because of the bad RNG?
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    Last edited by starLivitation; 05-21-2015 at 07:50 AM.

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post

    and others are seemly happy they done theirs and happpy about this RNG because they got some sort of uniqe weapon, that the others are blocked from getting because of the bad RNG?
    It's not that I'm happy because I have a unique weapon and that I'm done with it. I'm happy with the system because if it wasn't for the relic quests I would have probably quit this game 4 months ago, with nothing left to accomplish except coil. Getting Zodiac weapon and doing Final Coil is the only thing that's kept me loggin in since January. I really don't want to see these things get nerfed in 3.0 because those are the only little bits of endgame we have, and the story only takes roughly 50 hours or so to finish.

    I wish you the best of luck and hopefully tommorrow you will get your item.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    Truthfully the RNG is a very small portion of that quest. The quest entails 4 items that are bought with 100K gil, each from NPC vendor. 8 items that are from each of the crafting classes. 16 items from dungeons (RNG). 4 items bought with Grand Company Seals. 4 Items that are bought using Soldiery.

    Less than half of the items needed are RNG. But that didn't stop ANY of the complaining. It has nothing to do with RNG and everything to do with ppl not wanting to run dungeons more than once or twice for their drop.
    i completly disagree there, RNG is the bigger part, when u have todo the same dungen over 21 times without any result or progress. i had all the items crafted and prepared rdy, as well as solidery and other stuff, i could have done this 10 times without a sweat, solidery is just so easy to get, i am usually capped at 2k with nothing to do with it, even tho i am crafter but all the solidery items are so cheap in mb.

    but the RNG part, need to be nerfed, like really it's just rediclus i heard someone ran aurom vale 47 times ?
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis View Post
    It's not that I'm happy because I have a unique weapon and that I'm done with it. I'm happy with the system because if it wasn't for the relic quests I would have probably quit this game 4 months ago, with nothing left to accomplish except coil. Getting Zodiac weapon and doing Final Coil is the only thing that's kept me loggin in since January. I really don't want to see these things get nerfed in 3.0 because those are the only little bits of endgame we have, and the story only takes roughly 50 hours or so to finish.

    I wish you the best of luck and hopefully tommorrow you will get your item.
    do u really consider running the low level dungen such as lost city or dzemael, part of end game progresssion? are u really serius? SE added this to keep the dity finder active, because otherwise people have no reason to do these dungens, if u want poetic, u do 3-4 expert per week and ur done, why the hell would u do a lower level dungen such as lost city again? maybe u would go once or twice to help a friend or something or part of a trial rouelt. but todo it 21 times in 1 day? do u call that end game activity?
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  8. #48
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    why people bother with this extremly large massive grindfest? o_O

    We can get a good solid lv130 weapon in less than 2 weeks.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    why wait til heavensward, we waited enuf for that, i am doing my best to finish this wep in preparation for heavensward, but its so hard, now 16 runs today , and no drop? why SE?
    No, sorry..do it like the rest of us did for now. SE needs to stop invalidating peoples dedication and work. I REALLY hope SE stops catering to these kinds of people. Now, what they are doing is letting people who completed Zeta get a "leg up" in the new 3.1 Relic..and then nerfing it, THAT I am okay with. But not no..now thanks.
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  10. #50
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    Delenia Forcentis
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    I am currently en route to my first Zodiac weapon too. I currently have about 12/16 of the dungeon items, having just started last Sunday. I don't find any particular problem with this quest line.

    Have you tried farming for your Kirin ponies via DF? I have done that, for about 4 months, lost roll after roll. This is nothing compared to the pony grind.

    Maybe spice it up a little. Go as a healer for 3 rounds, then as a tank, then a DPS. Switch dungeons here and there. Do something else for a break. Most importantly, stop counting your runs - this was the best advice I'd gotten while farming for ponies, and forever feeling frustrated I never won my Garuda pony after some 200+ runs. When I stopped counting, I got less frustrated. Less feeling frustrated, more playing.
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